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    @mercime
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    @mercime

    @pdillon809 the video was for bbPress 2.2+ and BuddyPress 1.6.1+

    Follow the latest instructions for for bbPress 2.3 beta 2 and BuddyPress 1.7 beta 1 to create group and/or sitewide forums at http://codex.buddypress.org/user/setting-up-a-new-installation/installing-group-and-sitewide-forums/

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    pdillon809
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    @pdillon809

    thanks @mercime

    I’ll start again with a fresh install

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    pdillon809
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    @pdillon809

    Ok, new default installation following the latest instructions for for bbPress 2.3 beta 2 and BuddyPress 1.7 beta 1 to create sitewide forums.

    I guess the only issue I have is one of understanding the logic behind accessing the Forums or Group sections from the main menu as opposed to the admin bar menu or BuddyPress menus (under the avatar).

    Main menu takes the user to domainname/forums or domainname/groups
    (Here you can create, see listing of Forums etc, create a topic in these Forums.

    Whereas the admin bar links to domainname/members/username/forums/ or domainname/members/username/groups does not display Forum list – does not allow for creating new topics. Groups appear to work the same way.

    So, from within the “BuddyPress” menuing (by this I mean the admin bar dropdown and/or the Buddypress menus underneath the user’s avatar) the Forum and Groups menu do little except allow you to see topics that you have contributed to.

    The clean install is at:

    http://bp.youpix.org

    Is what I have described the way BuddyPress Forums and Groups are supposed to work or is there some configuration error on my part?

    thx

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    @mercime
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    @mercime

    @pdillon809 that’s pretty much the default.

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    pdillon809
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    @pdillon809

    Thanks @mercime

    I’m pleased that the latest versions install so easily.

    What I don’t understand is why a user sees no groups or Forums when accessing them through the BuddyPress menus The Forums are all but useless when accessed this way.

    domainnane/forums seems to be useful
    domainnane/members/membername/forums/ does not seem to be useful
    Ditto groups

    Obviously, I’m missing something or failing to understand the bbPress/BuddyPress Intergration. Then again, groups are nothing to do with bbPress so I’m very confused.

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    jtprattmedia
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    @jtprattmedia

    I don’t understand why there haven’t been any additional comments on this. Much like @pdillon809 I installed fresh install of BuddyPress and found absolutely no links to create either a group or forum (form the admin bar profile links). I finally a create group button if you go to /groups – but still nothing for creating a forum topic (even as admin). I’ve used bbPress countless times, but can’t find any documentation for how it integrates with BP Groups, and there is no “Forums” on the backend even.

    Doing some searching I found dozens and dozens of people trying to create forums and groups – most have no answers. This post was better at stating the actual issue – links in BP menus vs. the user-based links in the profile menu.

    But still no answers and severe lack of documentation.

    Can anybody shed any light on this?

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    danbpfr
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    @chouf1

    i  don’t understand why there haven’t been any additional comments on this.
    Probably because they have nothing to say about such a multi debate subject on this forum.

    Much like @pdillon809 I installed fresh install of BuddyPress
    Much like ? He gave some details. Not you !
    Which version do you use ?
    What is your theme ?
    Which plugins do you use ?

    We don’t read in chicken guts here nore in cristal bowls !

    and found absolutely no links to create either a group or forum (form the admin bar profile links).

    To create a group you have to activate the group component in the BP settings. Maybe also allow your members to create groups.
    Then you go on the group directory page and you’ll find logically a create button on that page. Have you your kitchen light button in your bedroom ? No ! Same for BP: each thing at his place. And a place for each thing.

    I finally a create group button if you go to /groups
    Very impressive ! But code is poetry isn’t it ?  You did a unecessary work i guess: this button is a 100% part of buddypress.

    but still nothing for creating a forum topic (even as admin).
    Have you installed bbPress ? Depending your BP version, have you allowed the group forum in the bbpress settings ?
    Do you use the integrated group forum shipped with BP (1.xx.x) ?
    Do you now understand why it’s important to give some details ?

    I’ve used bbPress countless times, but can’t find any documentation for how it integrates with BP Groups, and there is no “Forums” on the backend even.

    Did you take a look at the upper part of this support forum dedicated to BuddyPress ?
    1) it’s written BuddyPress
    2) it’s written Codex
    3) it’s written Blog (sometimes reading a blog helps to understand what’s going on)

    FYI, the codex contains also some precious informations about how to setup a group forum, a standalone forum or both group AND single forum. Did you read the codex page mentionned above by @mercime ?

    Doing some searching I found dozens and dozens of people trying to create forums and groups – most have no answers.
    Wow ! You have pretty much time to loose !!!
    Depends where they ask, what they ask and what they understand when be answered. I can find you hundreds of users who created groups and forums without any difficulty ! What else ?

    This post was better at stating the actual issue – links in BP menus vs. the user-based links in the profile menu.
    Especially since you came into the discussion with a very constructive attitude ?!!!

    But still no answers and severe lack of documentation.
    Do you mean you have some time to contribute to the codex documentation ? That would be very much appreciated. You said you have several bbPress install behind you. Beautiful coincidence, some user claiming here about the lack of documentation ! Feel free to write, it’s a wiki ! Use the same credentials as here to access. If you are over inspired, you can also publish on the bbPress codex or ask for help on their support forum.

    http://wprealm.com/blog/its-time-to-stop-kicking-the-buddypress-puppy

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    jtprattmedia
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    @jtprattmedia

    @Chouf1 for someone who is upset I’m complaining – all you really did is complain that I was complaining. I didn’t give any details, because mine were the same as the OP’s. In addition, I was talking about a base install – and the groups/forums issue is the same no matter what the theme.

    I have since found a few tidbits of information that were helpful.

    1. BP ver 1.7 does away with group forums
    2. BP ver 1.7 is in beta 2 and almost ready for release
    3. moving forward forums should be integrated using bbpress (which you have to install separately)
    4. you only get the “create” a group button from the master root /user-groups BP URL
    5. profile BP links like /members/username/groups are different than the master root pages
    6. to manage a group after creation before BP 1.7 you have to actually visit the groups page in question (/user-groups/groupname) and the click “admin” to make changes – there is no master groups editing page
    7. in BP 1.7 there is actually a new “groups” section in the wp-admin sidebar where you can (for the first time) have group management capabilities on the backend (edit / delete)

    I stick by the fact that there is very little documentation on how to use BuddyPress after first install. I have been using WordPress since 2004 and have created and hacked hundreds of plugins and themes. I have written thousands of blog posts and articles / tutorials on WordPress. From that background, having installed BuddyPress I can quite easily say that it’s not intuitive to use, it’s difficult to figure out the integration points, and many things that should be easy are just plain hard.

    WordPress is the #1 CMS in the world because of the low technical point of entry. It’s intuitive, easy to use, easy to install, well documented, and quite easy to hack. It’s usage has eclipsed both Joomla and Drupal because they are not. I think many people think BuddyPress will be as easy to install and use as WordPress itself, and it’s just not (yet).

    I’m definitely figuring out where everything is, and how to get going after first install. I didn’t find much here in these forums or the Codex in that overall regard. Even external blog tutorials are a little sparse on the subject – most information you find is just severely dated.

    Am I willing to contribute to the documentation? Certainly. I’m in the process of writing up my findings now – but I was looking for answers first…and all I was finding were others with similar unanswered questions.

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    Hugo
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    @hnla

    BP ver 1.7 does away with group forums

    Funny that, I’ve just set up group forums on a 1.7 beta test site, think maybe what you meant to say is that BP as of 1.7 does not bundle the older bbpress that was packaged along with BP core. From 1.7 on you need to install the standalone bbPress plugin if you want forums period, but having done so bbPress will allow you to create group forums if you wish and also to import existing group forums if on an older install being upgraded.

    WordPress is the #1 CMS in the world because of the low technical point of entry. It’s intuitive, easy to use, easy to install, well documented, and quite easy to hack. It’s usage has eclipsed both Joomla and Drupal because they are not. I think many people think BuddyPress will be as easy to install and use as WordPress itself, and it’s just not (yet).

    #1 cms is an opinion and regardless WP is a blogging platform trying to move processes into a more CMS like app but it’s not there yet.

    No it’s utterly intuitive (in fact that’s not really a great description)  when you get deep into certain aspects, yes it’s quite well documented but is still lacking detail in some areas, and just cos there’s a page on something doesn’t mean it’s all good info. Joomla has never been worth passing comment on, comparisons between Drupal and WP erroneous they are two different platforms, Drupal is a CMS built to be as such and Druapl is not and never was designed for non coders it’s a developers platform.

    Despite all that and reservations about various parts of the WP API it’s still essentially a nice platform to develop on and it’s primary feature/role as a blog blows all competition out of the water.

    Buddypress will likely be a whole lot easier to use for non coders with 1.7 now but still they will imagine the earth and want to have it but realise it’s not that simple and BP does require coding skills if you want to progress beyond simple out of the box installs into whatever theme you’re running.

     

    As for documentation get in there and help write some please – it’s an aspect few want to get involved with, not enough glory I suppose?

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