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Welcome to buddypress.org Ninjas

  • Avatar of Boone Gorges
    Boone Gorges
    Keymaster

    @boonebgorges

    In the June 30, 2010 BP dev chat http://bpdevel.wordpress.com/2010/06/30/summary-of-june-30th-dev-chat/, it was decided that a small group would form to address some of the ongoing issues with the buddypress.org website. I’ll be leading the effort.

    Anyone who is interested in playing a role in this process should join the group. In this thread, I’d like to work out how things will work. Here’s what I know so far:

    - There have been numerous discussions on this site and elsewhere about the current state of buddypress.org. @r-a-y, @gigalinux, and @lph2005 have been working on a whiteboard that assembles some of these threads and organizes them by severity/priority. You can view the list here: http://123.writeboard.com/7555930eb348e12b5 (password is cake)
    - @apeatling is working on getting me access to the buddypress.org environment. Once I have that access, I can act as the implementer of fixes. That said, I don’t want or need to be the only people fixing things. Many of the fixes on the list – especially feature requests – can and should be developed independently. If there’s something on the list that you’re particularly interested in coding, please start a thread in this group.

    A few other thoughts:
    * The purpose of this group is NOT to discuss the BuddyPress software more generally – ONLY its implementation as the software that runs this site, http://buddypress.org. If you want to discuss the BuddyPress software and its development, there are many places to do so: BuddyPress Trac, the BuddyPress Development Updates blog, the forums, #buddypress-dev and #buddypress on irc.freenode.net.
    * The purpose of this group is not to complain. (May I suggest that you start your own blog :) ? ) The purpose is to find bugs and develop solutions for them, as well as to discuss/develop new features or UX/IA directions for buddypress.org.

    Let’s get cracking!

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  • Avatar of Hugo
    Hugo
    Moderator

    @hnla

    I would hope that that ‘Feature Requests’ were at a minimum at least until essential fundamentals are addressed so the site simply performs.

    Avatar of Boone Gorges
    Boone Gorges
    Keymaster

    @boonebgorges

    @hnla I agree with you, but the line between ‘feature requests’ and ‘addressing essential fundamentals’ is not all that clear, eg displaying code correctly in the forums.

    Avatar of r-a-y
    r-a-y
    Moderator

    @r-a-y

    “Displaying code correctly in the forums” is similar to the moderate issue – “Missing various bbcode formatting filters in forum posts”.

    Might need to clean up the writeboard as I haven’t really looked at it since May.

    [EDIT]
    Okay, I’ve sorted out the writeboard by adding new headings and moving a few items around. Take a look, comment and give some feedback!

    Avatar of LPH2005
    LPH2005
    Participant

    @lph2005

    @r-a-y

    The new headings are much more clear.

    Some of the work can be done faster than others – for example – the enhancements can be done quickly. Should the order on that page represent the priority and order of accomplishment? Should it represent a “to-do” page ?

    Avatar of Hugo
    Hugo
    Moderator

    @hnla

    A distinction then, or clarification Feature Requests are things that are nice but NOT fundamental to the usability of the board, fundamentals are those things that we all know are prerequisites for a usable tech forum (or any forum/board really) Don’t think I’ve ever experienced a tech forum where I couldn’t post code, it’s an essential. Being able to see all your posts or recent posts since last visit, allows you to easily keep current at the moment I lose track of posts. being able to search posts, being able to actually paginate to the next page of results when it says there are some.

    Avatar of Hugo
    Hugo
    Moderator

    @hnla

    I would have added Private Messaging PM system to that whiteboard list but remember it being mentioned by Andy? as to why it isn’t available at present. I think. It is a function that I think many of us would expect to be available.

    Avatar of LPH2005
    LPH2005
    Participant

    @lph2005

    I would have added Private Messaging PM system to that whiteboard list but remember it being mentioned by Andy? as to why it isn’t available at present. I think. It is a function that I think many of us would expect to be available.

    I believe that the PM spamming was the reason for shutting it off.

    Avatar of r-a-y
    r-a-y
    Moderator

    @r-a-y

    PMs added to “enhancements” list. FYI, notice how “requested features” are listed at the bottom?

    Avatar of intimez
    intimez
    Participant

    @intimez

    More link in Community need fixing. Sometimes clicking more show double/repeat posts.

    http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/858/bpmore.png

    Avatar of r-a-y
    r-a-y
    Moderator

    @r-a-y

    This is currently listed as “Duplicate activity stream items” on the writeboard.

    Avatar of @mercime
    @mercime
    Keymaster

    @mercime

    “I believe that the PM spamming was the reason for shutting it off.”
    Improve anti-spam measures in BuddyPress.org – I’d like that PM back

    Avatar of techguy
    techguy
    Participant

    @crashutah

    How about…
    -Better Site Search (luckily there’s still google to support this when needed)
    -Sticky Posts at the top of the Support page
    -A gold star next to Boone’s name for taking this on

    Avatar of finni3
    finni3
    Participant

    @finni3

    Is @foxly still working on the SPAM issue? It seemed he was working on some BP.org anti spam measures…

    Avatar of Hugo
    Hugo
    Moderator

    @hnla

    @foxly At risk of taking this thread off tangent to it’s purpose but what on earth did the direction of the thread or the fact that a few ‘Noobs’ started ranting about spam have on your decision and announcement, it’s not a logical progression from talking in detail about plans to tackle this issue to … nothing!

    You all have to put up with a ‘bunch of noobs’ as you put it, bear in mind that WP and BP both follow a deliberate marketing tactic of ‘Out of the Box’ and ease of installation aimed at these Noobs, so suffer them with good grace!

    Avatar of foxly
    foxly
    Participant

    @foxly

    @hnla @finni3 @techguy @r-a-y @boonebgorges @LPH2005 @mercime

    Point take, @hnla. It’s been a log day of coding. I average 85 hour work weeks.

    I’m willing to help with the span control promlem. But it’s going to take some core commits.

    Thanks!

    ^F^’

    EDIT: I was tire, I was annoyed about spam because it’s causing big problems at two sites I run, and I said some things that were … unmindful.

    Phrased more constructively, here’s how I think we could proceed:

    a) We need emotionless (no die spammers die!), quantifiable, feedback from the people who run sites that have serious spam problems.

    b) We need 4 or 5 people to do a code sprint for a week or two and get the thing finished,

    c) We need some clever, mystery-solving types that enjoy challenging puzzles to help us debug it.

    d) And finally, it has to be integrated into the CORE. So there is a STANDARDIZED framework for dealing with spam, and so people can see how *brilliantly well* it works at the BP site and so hundreds of plugins aren’t trying to implement their own solutions.

    e) And I put up my hand to help make this happen. But I don’t want just me. I’ll do the research and grunt work, but I want a couple of core developers I can call on to sanity-check what I’m doing and about problems.

    So there you have it… :)

    ^F^

    Avatar of Hugo
    Hugo
    Moderator

    @hnla

    One last comment before allowing thread to resume course!

    @foxly I deeply empathize, I too work horrendous long hours and over 7 days, stress levels through the roof, made worse by the fact that I get pulled in so many directions that I struggle to find time to properly concentrate on coding.

    Back on track: your decision to remove the comment you made which I responded to highlights another woeful inadequacy of this ‘forum’ My comment is now orphaned and makes no sense, it’s a pretty odd situation when whole comments can be deleted at will or even edited at will, there are reasons that forums generally place prohibitions on these actions by members – essential reasons :)

    Avatar of Brajesh Singh
    Brajesh Singh
    Participant

    @sbrajesh

    if possible,
    - Bring back the recent forum posts/topics rss feed like earlier .
    It was much convenient than currently subscribing to the site wide activity feed.

    Avatar of r-a-y
    r-a-y
    Moderator

    @r-a-y

    @hnla – A timeframe for editing a forum post is a valid request, please post a defect ticket on Trac (so it is seen and if there isn’t one already!)
    Okay let’s resume the ninja discussion!

    @sbrajesh – Recent forum posts RSS feed added to the list.

    Avatar of Boone Gorges
    Boone Gorges
    Keymaster

    @boonebgorges

    @hnla – I just built a 30-minute edit limit for my own installation last week. If you post a ticket, I will submit it as a patch :)

    Avatar of Hugo
    Hugo
    Moderator

    @hnla

    Will add a ticket to 1.3 in the morning.

    Edit/
    @boonebgorges @r-a-y

    http://trac.buddypress.org/ticket/2492

    Avatar of @mercime
    @mercime
    Keymaster

    @mercime

    “blooming of features” – Professor @boonebgorges what is the scope or parameters for the “blooming” ?

    edit – @hnla “My comment is now orphaned and makes no sense,” I did wonder about what you were talking about :-)

    per forum/topic rss? (see group forum extras code to pull that out – quoting is in there too)

    Avatar of techguy
    techguy
    Participant

    @crashutah

    @boonebgorges BBPress has a build in feature that will lock threads after a certain period. I’m not sure how it’s exactly integrated with BP, but you might just turn on the BBPress option.

    In my opinion Buddypress.org should “eat its own dog food” if it did improving BP as a whole would fix these issues.

    Avatar of Paul Gibbs
    Paul Gibbs
    Keymaster

    @djpaul

    @crashutah That won’t work in/for BuddyPress; we pretty much only use bbPress to create their db tables, and to create/retrieve/update/delete individual forum posts.

    @dennis_h We always do. Historically this site has been a bit behind the current release version because apparently the Automattic server architecture is very weird and limits some things that BuddyPress needs it do. The current way forward is that for any new plugins which adds features which we want on this site, we test on http://testbp.org/ (also on Automattic’s servers), so if something goes wrong, it’s only the test site that goes down.

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