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  • Avatar of ewebber
    ewebber
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    @ewebber

    So WordPress 3.1 has just been launched, I was interested in when Buddypress 1.3 is expected and any experiences/thoughts anyone has about the new updates.

    I can see the admin bar is already something that currently clash, although I saw some comments on work arounds for that.

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  • Avatar of Avi M
    Avi M
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    @avim

    I upgraded to both BP 1.2.8 and WP 3.1

    I Have completely lost my BuddyPress section of the dashboard unless I navigate to http://mysite/wp-admin/network/ and then (as others have reported) all the BP plugin links are missing. Other than that so far so good.

    Our forums seem to be working fine.

    Avatar of stwc
    stwc
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    @stwc

    See the comment from mercime three comments up.

    Avatar of Dwenaus
    Dwenaus
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    @dwenaus

    following up on John David Smith’s comment. It seems that his bbpress folder went missing during the upgrade to WP 3.1 and then BP 1.2.8. Very strange. I uploaded the folder again to where it belongs and went through the manual install and it was fine.

    Avatar of Ronia
    ronia
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    @ronia

    Where can I find a list of files that has been changed (and those untouched) via a comparison between BP 1.2.8 and 1,2,7? I am sure it was somewhere but not finding that currently.

    Avatar of zkwc
    zkwc
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    @zkwc

    WP really irritates. I’m going to refrain from using foul language because everyone who commented was able to.

    It’s broken lots of the plug-ins I was using. Welcome Pack – doesn’t work. BP Album + – doesn’t work, although I spoke with the plug-in developer and he is currently working on a fix. I don’t know who the Welcome Pack developer is so I don’t know if he is aware that it is broken. The BP Album + developer didn’t know that their plug-in wasn’t working. So maybe the other plug-in developers don’t know that their plug-ins don’t work either. Who knows?

    Wouldn’t it be easier if all the plug-in developers, BuddyPress, and WordPress somehow got on the same page so that all updates could be easily streamlined so that we didn’t need to go through this every time? If the plug-in developers were able to test their plug-ins before the updates were integrated that could save EVERYONE lots of headaches. Is it possible for this simple streamlining of events to happen? Can’t there be a centralized place where things are actually tested first?

    Not only did WP break certain plug-ins but they’ve also changed the way “users” and “sites” are listed in the dashboard. They are all alphabetical now. If anyone knows about spammers and how OFTEN we have to mark them as spam on the fly or delete them, they will know that an alphabetical listing is not efficient. This is an IDIOTIC change. Having users and sites listed as first joined or created and last joined or created was better as deleting spam took 1 minute. Now it takes an hour. You have to click through each page or copy and paste the spammers user name into search users in order to delete or edit or whatever.

    And what’s up with “network admin” and who thought that was a good idea? What’s going on WordPress? I know this isn’t a Buddypress issue, but a cook is a better designer of a kitchen than an architect. Just sayin’. UGH.

    Avatar of Travel-Junkie
    Boris
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    @travel-junkie

    Plugin developers are able to test their code against the development version. How do you imagine a centralized test ground would look like?

    Network admin is actually a really good thing. It moves everything to do with the multisite part of your installation onto a separate page. Less confusion, but I guess you can’t get it right for everyone.

    Feedback on WordPress should go on the wordpress.org forums, so the community directly involved with that product can see it.

    `
    Wouldn’t it be easier if all the plug-in developers, BuddyPress, and WordPress somehow got on the same page so that all updates could be easily streamlined so that we didn’t need to go through this every time?
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    BuddyPress had a same-day compatibility release for the next version of WordPress. We had planned it for months. It couldn’t have happened quicker :)

    Avatar of zkwc
    zkwc
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    @zkwc

    @DJPaul – well, people ought to know that if they are running plug-ins (any plug-ins including spam plug-ins) that most of their installed plug-ins are going to get killed. Including Welcome Pack. And I did comment on the WordPress site. Not happy. There is no way there was enough testing on this. On Buddypress side, things are working fine. It’s WordPress. All my major plug-ins… dead. Now I’m going to have to revert back to the previous versions. I really shouldn’t have hit the update button. But… you’d think that you should be safe to do so.

    Avatar of zkwc
    zkwc
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    @zkwc

    @travel-junkie – if you are a hoarder it might make sense. it’s disorganized. should be able to click on plug-ins as an admin and see everything. but you have to go to another section of admin. how many admin pages really need to be there? only one. if it’s not broke don’t fix it. it only adds more time to your administrative duties on your site. back and forth and back and forth and back and forth again. this is actually the worst wordpress update i’ve ever experienced. it seems rushed and untested. with over 60 million people depending on it you’d think… well, that’s the problem… i thought. nevermind.

    Avatar of ri-kun
    ri-kun
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    @ri-kun

    I also have some issues with the new version too! I have 2 sites and I dont know what happen but when people register in the site it doesnt included in the mainsite like it used to. I tried registering myself and it get me registered in the Network but not in the 1 site/ main site which I want all registration will be stored. Is anyone experiencing the same thing? How can I fix this?

    Avatar of yeeloon
    yeeloon
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    @yeeloon

    this time the 3.1 hit us hard… all things go haywired…

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    danbpfr
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    @chouf1

    OK updating WP and BP was a bit awfull this time.
    but i want to say that a standard BP multisite works correctly AFTER these updates. http://bp-fr.net

    Many WP plugins don’t work from now on ?
    i would say it’s more than time that some old bad coded stuff is now out of the sky. I hope that the the plugin repo will be cleaned promptly.

    If you encounter some problems after uptade, here is a good starting point:
    http://wordpress.org/support/topic/troubleshooting-wordpress-31-master-list

    @skwc the bp-album plugin works. I still have 0.1.8 and it works well: http://bp-fr.net/members/admin/album/pictures/
    To sort by date in the userlist, simply click on the date col. You can do the same to sort by all the other columns. And you can click again to sort back or forward.
    This change is not idiotic !
    This change is logic beacause users have names and names are generally sorted alphabetically.
    Understand also that this list works like a DB table, and as is, such a table is usally sorted by id’s. Unfortunately, numbers are rarely comprehensive to human admins. Names are !

    Most people don’t like changes because they don’t like being changed. Reality or perception ? You have to decide…. ;-)

    Avatar of ewebber
    ewebber
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    @ewebber

    I’d like to say the work that that plugin developers do for nothing is great.
    I am choosing not to upgrade my WP and BP for the moment because during the testing of my own specific set of plugins on my development environment I found some of them didn’t work, which such a big upgrade is somewhat to be expected.
    My site works for now, so there is no rush to upgrade.
    I’ll keep on eye on those plugins for if and when they are updated and take the step to upgrade at a later date.

    Avatar of zkwc
    zkwc
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    @zkwc

    @chouf1 try uploading a picture. It doesn’t work. Where is the settings options on the BP drop down menu in the plug-in list? Not there! He is aware and was on my website testing it. It broke their plug-in and many others. And the other change only makes sense if you want an hour tacked onto your administrative duties. Do you get at least 50 slogs and spammers a day? Good luck clicking around trying to delete them in the minute it used to take. UGH! I don’t know why you insist upon arguing about that. Unless you have a vested interest. I just feel sorry for all the plug-in developers who are frantically trying to make their stuff work. And now my site is broken. I’m screwed. Tried downgrading. Sucked. Didn’t work.

    @ewebber I wish I had waited. You are making a wise decision!

    Avatar of danbpfr
    danbpfr
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    @chouf1

    @zkwc apologize, you’re right, bp-album is showing up but doesn’t load any image.
    i just discovered this tread to understand what is happening:

    http://buddypress.org/community/groups/bp-album/forum/topic/unable-to-upload/

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    Boris
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    @travel-junkie

    @zkwc
    Well, I get around 1 spam signup a week, if that. On any of my BP sites. For me, alphabetic ordering makes sense. And it would be for most WP sites (most of which aren’t BP enabled sites, btw). Obviously, WP development is separate from BP development, so changes made to WP might not make much sense for some BP users, but a lot of sense for the majority of WP users. Just some food for thought…

    I just upgraded 7 of my sites to WP 3.1 plus a few client ones and didn’t have any plugin problems at all. With the widespread adoption of WP it’s natural that some sites will experience problems, but don’t make this out to be an issue for everybody, when in fact it isn’t.

    As for the network admin page, this way is more organized. Stay on the current blog admin page to handle everything to do with this particular blog, go to the network page for anything related to running the network, like sitewide enabled plugins. To me this makes sense…

    Avatar of zkwc
    zkwc
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    @zkwc

    @travel-junkie – I get over 2 million hits per month to my site. I get at least 400 spam sign ups a week. This is not an efficient change!

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    josh101
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    @josh101

    Just like everyone eles said on the NETWORK admin pannel AKA The Extreme Back End Buddypress settings there Plugin settings on Vacation and are MIA. You’d think if you activate them you be able to use them.So I did some work with it instead of network I’d just local site set it still NONTHING. It made it worst! What I learn is if you have network mode on buddypress can only do network or atleast in 3.1. Next time I wont upgrade for like a mo. I was so happy to see 3.1 now I hate it. Its like getting a 2012 Dodge Viper just to find out it has 1,000,000 miles on it and sugar in the gas tank but you did not know this before you drove it. Now you got a mess you cant even afford to fix even if the maker of buddypress sold there software to fix it.

    Avatar of zkwc
    zkwc
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    @zkwc

    @josh101 I totally hear ya!

    i found another (insert curse word here) bug. When you mark someone as a spammer from their profile in Buddypress – they don’t actually get marked as a spammer on backend. Probably because of this (insert curse word here) way of separating the stupid (insert curse word here) network admin from regular admin. This is totally reedonkulas. So now… deleting spam got even harder. And I know for certain some of my spam plug-ins got broken too. So they are descending upon me like …. it’s not even worth discussing anymore. I’m just going to get angrier.

    edit:

    and… (am i angrier… yes) when you delete the (cuss word) spam after you’ve clicked on “registered” to make it show last joined and first joined, it reverts to alphabetical again just to piss you off and make you have to click the stupid “registered” button again to show first joined or last joined. Welcome to HOURS of spam deleting made possible to you by WordPress… the official WP motto “we aren’t into efficiency, we’re just into kicking all of you in the stomach”

    Hey, I understand some of the criticism in this thread, but let’s try to keep things on-topic (BuddyPress-related) and constructive. WordPress feedback should go on wordpress.org.

    I’m interested in working with anyone in this thread to help make BuddyPress work better with WordPress 3.1, and as I don’t have much multisite experience with 3.1 so far, I would find it very useful for a brief comment as to how to reproduce an issue which you feel needs addressing.

    thanks @mercime, changing all ‘admin_menu’ references in plugins to ‘network_admin_menu’ did the trick.
    Now my multisite enabled plugins have their links under the network manager buddypress menu.
    Great article from @boonebgorges
    Thanks!

    Hello , m new to buddypress, just wanted to ask, is it really necessary to upgrade to WP 3.1 or should i continue with WP 3.0.5. i dont want my plugins to crash .

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    josh101
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    @josh101

    @kirtank Most bp plugin are not ready for 3.1 NETWORK so if your not on network mode your smooth sailing with 3.1 but if your on network your screwed if you hit upgrade.

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    josh101
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    @josh101

    @Everyone with 3.1 network we should make a group to discuss this in and to organize the problems because theres alot and if bp 1.3 is going to be ready or bp 1.2.9 is going to be ready then lets fix this. Im all for better development and my goal for this year is to at least make it in the development credits for bp or wp. So I will go make a group so we can tackle this beast to the ground and pin it. So Lets do this 1………3!

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    PJ
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    @pjnu

    Good suggestions @modemlooper and @boonegorges .
    I have WPMU (thankfully backed stuff up) went to 3.1 but noticed a few hiccups and rolled back to the previous version. I’m going to wait until a few things are resolved before I use it on my live sites.

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