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Problems setting up pages and other: due to softaculous or my ignorance?


  • Rollercoasterider
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    @rollercoasterider

    1. Which version of WordPress are you running?
    4.2.2

    2. Did you install WordPress as a directory or subdomain install?
    3. If a directory install, is it in root or in a subdirectory?
    It is at domain.com/members

    4. Did you upgrade from a previous version of WordPress? If so, from which version?
    No

    5. Was WordPress functioning properly before installing/upgrading BuddyPress (BP)? e.g. permalinks, creating a new post, commenting.
    This is a fresh install–relatively, I’ve been playing and testing with it for a month or two, but no posts–not yet public.

    6. Which version of BP are you running?
    2.3.2.1

    7. Did you upgraded from a previous version of BP? If so, from which version?
    I have updated my plugins whenever it asks so maybe, but the issues have been present pretty much since I started. I’vbe just been focusing on different areas.

    8. Do you have any plugins other than BuddyPress installed and activated? If so, which ones?
    Advanced Access Manager: not activated
    Akismet: still need to get the API
    Child Theme Configurator
    Conditional Menus
    Lazy Load for Videos
    Microthemer: not activated
    Press Permit Core: not activated
    Restrict User Access
    Simple:Press
    UpdraftPlus – Backup/Restore
    User Role Editor
    Zippy Courses

    Some are not activated because I was trying out a few different plugins for user roles.

    9. Are you using the standard WordPress theme or customized theme?
    I have created a child theme from the Social Triggers theme for Zippy Courses

    10. Have you modified the core files in any way?
    I don’t think so.

    11. Do you have any custom functions in bp-custom.php?
    I don’t think so.

    12. If running bbPress, which version? Or did your BuddyPress install come with a copy of bbPress built-in?
    Not running bbPress

    13. Please provide a list of any errors in your server’s log files.
    How do I do this?
    I copied the 300 most recent and removed those that were not from the members folder (smf forum had the most) and got a list of 16–of course there would be more if it listed more than 300. But these give addresses and IPs.
    I’m probably not understanding how to do this.

    All of them are File not Found errors and there are 8 different ones–each error shows twice.
    8 refer to Zippy courses, referencing the child theme and wp-admin
    2: wp-admin/index.php
    2: wp-admin/plugins.php
    2: wp-admin/themes.php
    2: wp-admin/update-core.php

    The other 8 do not refer to Zippy Courses, but otherwise refer to the same end places.
    Does that help?

    14. Which company provides your hosting?
    Cyberlynk

    15. Is your server running Windows, or if Linux; Apache, nginx or something else?
    Windows

    I switched themes to 2015 and then 2013 to see if it made a difference and it did not.

    I installed a fresh install of WP at a new location (domain.com/members) for using the zippy courses plugin. Afterwards I thought I should try out BuddyPress with it, so I installed and activated it.
    I’ve had some issues and I don’t know if its zippy courses, buddypress or something else. But I did just go to the codex and read that I should not have use softaculous to install WP.
    So I think I should start over again—not a huge deal since I’m just playing around with zippy and buddy, but I would rather not lose some of the things I’ve done. How can I save what I’ve done and still reinstall? Zippy courses has an importer/exporter, so that’s no problem, but what about the other stuff:
    I’ve set up user roles with a plugin and created a child theme and added a second menu and done some other things that, for me, took time.

    Some of the issues could simply be that I’m still learning (like the child-theme). All of the pages in both the zippy and buddypress core pages section say they are pointing to the page with the corresponding name. I have the front page set as Home. But when I try to go to the homepage it goes directly to the members page instead.
    When I try the links at the top: activity, notifications, profile, settings; they all go to

    The requested URL /members/members/Rollercoasterider/notifications/ was not found on this server.
    Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

    The only one that goes somewhere is the log out link and that goes to the Simple:Press forum I just set up—before I installed Simple:Press it went somewhere else. I don’t know why it is now going to Simple:Press. (Other than this now directing to Simple:Press, all these issues were present before I installed Simple:Press).

    Why do pretty permalinks need to be used? I thought I read something (a few years ago) about these causing problems.

    Site: http://theherosspouse.com/members/

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  • djsteveb
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    @djsteveb

    @rollercoasteride

    disable all plugins except buddypress and twenty-something theme – does it work?

    My guess is your wp / BP may work fine without the zippy courses plugin – if it works fine with no other plugins – then your issue is with those plugins, not a BP issue per se.

    No WP and BP do not work with default theme and all other plugins disabled?

    yes you need permalinks pretty – I think.. when you set that does it actually write to your htaccess file? or is there some text that appears at bottom of screen (below scroll view sometimes) that tells you need to manually add the new htaccess code?

    still not work? you may…

    Looks like you may have some corrupted files somewhere – I would make a backup of your databases and zip up your files for a backup (there is a reasonable backup thing in softalicious backend) – remove the wp installation through softalicious – remove the whole wp / bp setup – start fresh.

    If exporting your database through phpmyadmin, click advanced / add / drop table or something (directions in wp codex)

    You can install WP through softalicious and then add BP no problem in my experiences.
    (I would not count on softalicious to do your updates, gosh fantistico was horrible at that, and WP has it’s own auto-update thing going on these days anyway)

    /random thoughts from a user, not a BP dev or anything – other advice may be better.


    Rollercoasterider
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    @rollercoasterider

    @djteveb,

    Thanks for responding.

    Re: Pretty Permalinks
    I think I was getting mixed up with pretty urls at my smf forum which were a disaster. When I moved my blog I had to change embedded links and that was a nightmare and I was thinking it was due to pretty permalinks since ?I had a nightmare changing links at the forum as well. But my blog does use pretty permalinks and I have them set up on this other WP install as well.

    I have just disabled all plugins–checking in between deactivations occasionally. I deactivated Simple:Press last and before that the logout link was still going to the forum index and now it just goes to the members page which is still acting as the front/home page even though I have the page titled HOME selected as being the front page–I checked this again after deactivating all the other plugins.

    But partway through I did notice a message only on the members page shown as a small pop-up ONLY when I click chrome in my footer bar and see all the open window options. When I choose to view the wondow in full the message disappears.

    <br/> <b>Warning</b>:strstr() [<ahref=’function.strstr’>function.strstr ]: Empty delimiter in <b>/home/…wp-content/plugins/buddypress/bp-core/bp-core-filters.php</b> on line <b>781</b> Members | – Google Chrome

    I had to take a screen shot of it just to have enough time to read it because the pop-up didn’t stay very long and I had to type it manually here, so I might have messed up the spacing.

    The activity, profile, notifications and settings links on the menu go to the same file not found message as before.

    My next step will be to uninstall and reinstall through cpanel or ftp. But first I’ll wait and see if anyone else has ideas and come back to it tomorrow.


    Rollercoasterider
    Participant

    @rollercoasterider

    Oops, to add…

    That pop-up message I quoted previously is the pop-up page title seen when hovering over the minimized site. It was probably that way for a while and I just did not notice it, I don’t think it suddenly became that way partway through deactivating plugins, but then who knows I guess.


    Rollercoasterider
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    @rollercoasterider

    I uninstalled WP and reinstalled manually.
    I have activated BuddyPress and then added most of the plugins. I am waiting to add Simple:Press and Zippy Courses until I figure moer things out.

    I set a static front page to direct to HOME, but it is still directing to the Members page.
    Anyone know why?


    djsteveb
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    @djsteveb

    @rollercoasterider – so you created a new “page” and that page’s title is “Home”
    maybe you created a second “page” and called tha “blog”
    You went to: Settings -> reading and selected static front page to show the “page” Home ?
    Perhaps blog to the “blog” page)

    I assume you did the confige bp pages thing ( https://codex.buddypress.org/getting-started/configure-components/ )

    maybe assigning ( https://codex.buddypress.org/getting-started/register-and-activation-pages/ )

    and you are using a default theme like 2014 ?

    and when you click on members it goes to home?

    Is this the same with all the other plugins deactivated?

    Set your permalinks to pretty urls?


    Rollercoasterider
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    @rollercoasterider

    I’ve replied several times and it won;t go through, but a test that jsut said test did, so I’m going to try to break up my reply–that way at least some parts might go through.


    @djsteveb
    ,

    Thanks for responding–you are asking the right questions it seems, because those are all things I’ve had to review.

    I created a new page with the title ‘home’ and then went into settings–> reading and selected ‘home’ to be my static front page–though in menu I call it ‘Welcome’ because I have a main home page for all my sites. I did not create a page called ‘blog’ because my blog is at a separate WP isntall; this install is meant for zippy courses.

    and when you click on members it goes to home?

    No, it does the opposite. When I try and go to the front page which is at dotcom/members, it takes me to the Members page–but does not redirect the actual url to the members page which has /members to that address.

    I followed the config instructions and had forgotten to turn on registration before installing BP, so I did that and then manually created a register and activation page and pointed the register and activation functions to them. I tested them in a browser where I was not logged in and they work.


    Rollercoasterider
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    @rollercoasterider

    That worked, so now I will try editing the url examples in the permalink list because that may be why it wasn’t going through.I am using thetwenty-thirteen theme.
    I have deactivated all the plugins and no change.

    Permalink Choices
    Default …/members/?p=123
    Day and name …/members/2015/07/11/sample-post/
    Month and name t…/members/2015/07/sample-post/
    Numeric …/members/archives/123
    Post name …/members/sample-post/
    Custom Structure …/members

    I chose post name–I believe that qualifies as pretty.

    I named the file WP is installed on members; could that be confusing the system? It’s the only thing I can think of left.


    djsteveb
    Participant

    @djsteveb

    @rollercoasterider – So it sounds to me like it is working as it should.

    Now it appears your goal is to actually have the front page of your wp/bp install to show your “Members” page instead of some other page.

    Assuming all is working as it should, now you can go to

    Settings -> Reading
    Where it says “Front page displays” A static page, click in the dropdown there and select “members”
    Save Changes at bottom.

    I think that is what you are saying you want (?)


    Rollercoasterider
    Participant

    @rollercoasterider

    No, that’s the opposite of what I want and that is what it is doing now, but it’s not supposed to be doing it.

    I have the ‘Home’ page selected from that dropdown for the static front page and yet the static front page goes to the page called ‘Members.’

    So the confusing part may be that the folder where I isntalled wordpress is called members because I am building a site for members…maybe I’d be better calling it community.

    The page titled members is located at domain.com/members/members
    The home page should show up at adomain.com/members


    djsteveb
    Participant

    @djsteveb

    @rollercoasterider
    “that’s the opposite of what I want ”

    Okay.. do this:

    on your admin dashboard
    hover over “pages”
    click “add new”

    cursor should be on “enter title here”
    title it “welcome”
    click into the page content box below – write something like “welcome front page members test”
    click publish – the blue button on right

    on the left under Pages, click “add new”

    title it “site blog”
    click publish – blue button on right

    go to Settings -> Reading
    Where it says “Front page displays” A static page, click in the dropdown there and select “welcome”
    the next drop down, “posts page” click drop down, select “site blog”
    Save Changes at bottom.

    Now you should have a static page as your “home page” in your /members directory,
    and people can click to members tab to get to your members page.

    This is your goal?


    Rollercoasterider
    Participant

    @rollercoasterider

    That is already done–except it is called ‘home’ rather than ‘welcome.’ The problem is that it’s not working.
    And I don’t need a page called blog because there is no blog.


    djsteveb
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    @djsteveb

    @rollercoasterider – maybe someone can login to your setup and take a look – it should work if you follow my directions (which you have not I guess) – if it’s not working I can’t tell you why, I have no idea what you mean by it’s not working.

    If you followed my directions and it didn’t work – interesting – but you did not – so I can’t help you anymore, sorry.

    You could of created a page called called blog and got your settings straight and then later deleted the page and changed your settings.

    Anyhow I am not a WP / BP expert, just another user who has setup a few of these and I tried what I could to walk you though what I know.


    Rollercoasterider
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    @rollercoasterider

    djsteveb,

    I agree that with your directions it should work. The frustration for me is that I’d already set those things–except for the blog part.
    And then I still followed your directions . I made another page called ‘welcome’ after your last post and briefly set the front page to show that–it changed nothing the front still showed the members page.

    I still don’t need a page called ‘blog,’ but I did create one and put the posts page to it in the settings; it changed nothing.

    The problem I have been having ever since the reinstall is that the front page is supposed to be showing the page called ‘home’ and instead it is showing the page called ‘members.’ The settings are set as youh ave said they should be; the blog part changed nothing, but I have not removed it.
    I tried both the welcome and the home pages as the front after creating the blog page…nothing is changing anything.
    I wondered if it could be a caching issue–though I might not understand what that is. I tried viewing the front page in a different browser and it was just as always…at the members page.

    I know you are not the expert, I’ve been amazed that you keep posting and the experts have stayed away. You are the only person who has tried to help.


    djsteveb
    Participant

    @djsteveb

    @rollercoasterider – are you still doing this with a default theme like 2014 or something similar?
    Have you tried it with ALL plugins disabled except buddypress?

    (some hosts do include a wp-cahe type plugin, that is enabled by default, that drove me crazy with a similar issue a couple years ago – lol)


    Rollercoasterider
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    @rollercoasterider

    Yes, I am using the theme 2013. I don’t want to use it forever, but for now I’m testing with it.

    [b]Plugins[/b]
    The only active plugin in the list is BuddyPress. Would a default wp-cache or other plugin show up, or might such a things be hidden?


    Rollercoasterider
    Participant

    @rollercoasterider

    Okay, I have not really solved the problem, but I’m trying a new install in a folder called ‘community.’ Maybe this will be less confusing for the system than having a folder called ‘members.’

    So far it is working, though I’m just getting started. Before installing and activating BuddyPress I made sure registration is open and I created a page called ‘welcome’ and added my content. I switched the theme to 2013–because the horizontal nav menu feels less confusing to me since that is what I am used to.

    Before installing and activating BuddyPress the ront page shows the welcome page!
    YAY
    After installing, activating and going through the configuration steps for BuddyPress the front page shows the welcome page!
    YAY!

    So perhaps not a resolution to the other address where wordpress is installed in the folder called ‘members,’ but it works so far at this other location.

    That doesn’t mean the issue is due to the folder being named ‘members.’ I did some steps in a better order this time–liek remembering to turn on registrations before installing BuddyPress. So when I went to view the core pages, both activate and register were already created–previously I had to add them myself.

    My next step is to slowly begin adding and activating the other plugins–testing between each.

    I think naming the folder community might be better anyway. I might move my forum to it if I switch to Simple:Press and then my community will truly be there, whereas originally it was only going to be paying members other than front page type access.


    djsteveb
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    @djsteveb

    @rollercoasterider – congrats – sounds like you have a working wp/bp in a sub folder!

    weird how fresh folders and installs clear things sometimes. good to have the practice in case you ever need to restore from backups, change hosts, or deal with a hack infection.

    Good luck!


    Rollercoasterider
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    @rollercoasterider

    Yeah, I am getting practice!

    So other than the folder name, the biggest–and probably more valid–difference is that I turned on registration before installing and activating BuddyPress. I had not done this with my original install that I was using when I started this thread–the install was a few months ago.
    It changed more than a just the working front page and that the activate and register pages were automatically created. In Settings–>BuddyPress–>Settings Group Settings are now available; I had not seen these on any install until now.

    And for anyone thinking they can just uninstall or deactivate BuddyPres and turn on registration and reinstall and activate…nope, I tried that early on in my troubleshooting.

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