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  • Avatar of Dainismichel
    dainismichel
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    @dainismichel

    ideally, of course, when people comment within the activity stream, they would not have to “leave” the activity stream to participate at a website.

    ideally:
    user makes a comment on the activity stream and that comment also shows up at the blog post as a comment
    and
    user comments at the blog post/page — and of course the activity stream is updated, because the user commented on the content

    is such a set-up possible — where the activity stream is more functional?

    otherwise — it’s kind of a post stream — but if two different sets of comments are generated then the functionality is unusable.

    if the “out the box” BP functionality is unusable/counter-intuitive — then of course i need to “disable activity stream commenting on blog and forum posts,” but actually — by how that sounds — that’s exactly what i want to “enable,” because i want visitors to be able to post within the activity stream — and on the blog and forum posts — and have the comment stream under the “original post” be the same (since it is about the same content).

    i’m using “a lot of words” to describe something quite simple, but maybe you can sort through the verbiage and see what i mean.

    Same Content
    Same Comments
    Regardless of Whether on a Page/Post or within the Activity Stream

    Logical, Simple, Functional, Intuitive.

    Avatar of Dainismichel
    dainismichel
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    @dainismichel

    i think i remember what i did a few years back — i forced users to jump out to the posts themselves to make comments. i think i did this by just not displaying the comment buttons in the activity stream … something like that.

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    dainismichel
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    @dainismichel

    thnx for the vid, Boone rocks!

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    dainismichel
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    @dainismichel

    http://buddypress.org/support/tag/forums/ looks good :-)

    is there a search that searches all of the forums?

    best,
    dainis

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    dainismichel
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    @dainismichel

    (note: this is only part of the solution for me, I also want an entry which was made on the activity stream also as a wordpress comment…) — there is a plugin for that and i installed it and it worked for me…

    i think the right one is “BuddyPress Activity Stream as Blog Comments”

    google indexing my site does not make blog comments appear in the activity stream though…

    Avatar of Dainismichel
    dainismichel
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    @dainismichel

    c’mon crew — give me a clue!

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    dainismichel
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    @dainismichel

    these topics relate:

    http://codex.buddypress.org/developer-docs/custom-buddypress-loops/the-activity-stream-loop/
    http://buddypress.org/community/groups/how-to-and-troubleshooting/forum/topic/activity-stream-not-showing-comments/

    don’t have a solution yet — btw: what’s the easiest way to figure out what file is being discussed in the codex?

    best,
    dainis

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    dainismichel
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    @dainismichel

    this relates http://bpdevel.wordpress.com/2011/08/12/custom-post-types-comments-and-the-activity-stream-in-bp-1-5/

    but i’m not sure how to code the fix.

    it’s probably a tiny little ‘false’ changed to ‘true’ somewhere — but where?

    (or something like that)

    best,
    dainis

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    dainismichel
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    @dainismichel

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    dainismichel
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    @dainismichel

    i tried turning the setting mentioned here off then back on again and i still do not see page or post comments in the activity stream: is there a solution available?

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    dainismichel
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    @dainismichel

    having the same issue, would love to find a resolution

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    dainismichel
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    @dainismichel

    ahh — i was going to do that but gave the “private buddypress” plugin a shot and it worked.

    i am relieved and grateful :-)

    best,
    dainis

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    dainismichel
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    @dainismichel

    huh, i just tried the “private buddypress” plugin — using the latest WP BP for nov 2 2012 (plz lookup the versions if you need to), and the plugin works just fine.

    i am quite grateful to the creator of the private buddypress plugin. it does everything i need it to do.

    life’s hard enough as it is — when you catch a “break” like this with code that works as promised without hassles and even without payment — you just really have to say thanks.

    thanks to dennis at: http://profiles.wordpress.org/GIGALinux/ seriously — thanks!

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    dainismichel
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    @dainismichel

    yeah, i haven’t quite known what to “do” with akismet since they started charging. there is something “odd” about paying to “not get” spam — especially when anyone can “create” spam — so theoretically — akismet could make spam that gets through spam filters other than their own.

    or something like that.

    i have some other spam filters activated and they seem to work so it’s not biggie for now.

    thnx for your feedback paul!

    cheers,
    dainis

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    dainismichel
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    @dainismichel

    i deactivated akismet and was able to post — not sure if the issue is resolved though.

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    dainismichel
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    @dainismichel

    if you consider accomplishing the task by hitting my laptop with a fuzzy mallet, pouring coffee into the keyboard to “wake up” the computer, downloading databases, failing at recovering my backup, then needing flop and then flip versions of BP back and forth, and then just waving my hands over the computer chanting “oh buddypress and wordpress update work oh work hhoooommiiiiii aaaah”

    and then it working.

    then yes.

    PS: i did very few of the above mentioned steps and do not recommend you try them at home.

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    dainismichel
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    @dainismichel

    slam blam bloom blaaam. upgraded WP first. then went through BP 1.5 and then 1.5.6 then auto to latest.

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    dainismichel
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    @dainismichel

    ok, tried to go from buddypress 1.2.6 to 1.5 on a WP 3.0.1 site

    and got the following error:

    Fatal error: Call to undefined function show_admin_bar() in wp-content/plugins/buddypress/bp-core/bp-core-buddybar.php on line 585

    restoring the site from a backup now.

    i had all of the plugins inactivated.

    how do you suggest i proceed — the site is using the default BP theme.

    best,
    dainis

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    dainismichel
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    @dainismichel

    i guessed at the naming convention and just added “.zip” to the filename.

    so if the current version is at http://downloads.wordpress.org/plugin/buddypress.1.6.1.zip

    then 1.5 is http://downloads.wordpress.org/plugin/buddypress.1.5.zip

    i was guessing though and could not find that info posted anywhere though it likely is…

    best,
    dainis

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    dainismichel
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    @dainismichel

    thnx crew!

    back to guessing a bit, trying to download the versions. i’m here poking around: http://buddypress.trac.wordpress.org/browser#tags/1.5.1

    would i need to download those folders, rename them buddypress and then upload that way?

    where do i download the older versions of buddypress?

    best,
    dainis

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    dainismichel
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    @dainismichel

    right :-) so my feedback/input/solutions for the topic “buddypress.org redesign issues” is

    * put a login widget or login solution in an easy-to-see place

    * don’t make us go to google to search for stuff and make sure we can find info as quickly and as easily as possible so we are not lost in the forums looking for tech info etc. — make sure people find what they need and want as quickly as possible and design search functionality that facilitates what is called “just in time knowledge delivery” in tech writing circles. (that means do not make us click and search and read and read and read and read — help us find what we need as quickly as possible via an excellent search tool that yields excellent results)

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    dainismichel
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    @dainismichel

    thank you very much for your response, can i pick any 1.5 version?

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    dainismichel
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    @dainismichel

    * can only log in from buddybar (rt. sidebar suggested i join wordpress.org even though i joined there ages ago)

    * how do i search the forums?

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    dainismichel
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    @dainismichel

    i can offer a bit more information here, and i’m impressed that buddypress has kept this thread alive. it’s clear that this thread has a lot of value for the survival of bp in it, and it’s also clear, at least to me, that there are a good number of caring people trying, essentially, to help bp “survive.”

    if you download free software, does that make you a beggar?

    if you get a 2nd muffin free at a coffee shop, how would you feel if the shopkeeper said “beggars can’t be choosers” and just gave you a second muffin with a bite already taken out of it? then said: hey man, if you don’t like it, bake your own, no one forcing you to eat your free muffin you know.

    what we’ve bought into, and what bp has “sold” to us, is: “social networking in a box.” we, as a culture, have experienced how awesome it is when people get together and work for the common good. we see your slogans “all the features you love in 6 minutes flat,” and we go “rock on!” power to the people, way to go buddypress! it’s the information revolution waaahooo!

    it’s a big promise bp is making, and i’d like to know if you really look at downloaders of bp as “beggars.” do you really?

    many “buy into” the bp promise and are more than willing to help in any way they know how, as long as they get help with the parts that they don’t know how to do.

    that one is pretty critical: many are more than willing to help in any way they know how, as long as they get help with what they don’t know how to do.

    for example: i paid for my artistic education as a documentation and training professional and an “end user advocate” (which you can tell eh?).

    as a result, i have documented extremely complex software, have dug deep into code, have consulted on code commenting procedures — and i’ve also put together guides for non-english speaking factory workers to put together electronics (so basically a picture-based guide).

    so, here i am, and basically, with 20 years off and on hard-core tech documentation experience, i can say: i can dern near explain anything to anyone in a clear and understandable way. but, in order to do so, i need something called a “subject matter expert.”

    and that, in this situation, would be “you guys.”

    i have repeated multiple times: i am happy to document, but i need to be shown.

    the benefit to me: functioning websites. the benefit to you: great documentation. what you give me: code, procedures, and a consistently functional and kind environment in which to receive answers to my questions (which will likely all be about functionality).

    the benefit to the community: more and more people install bp and can actually use it.

    the “BuddyPress Story” web-wide has been “i had high hopes and spent sleepless nights because i wanted to create a site for [passionX, missionY, businessZ, businessIdeaN] and basically, eventually, i gave up.”

    the failing that i see here on the part of buddypress is:
    not giving its community access to the “parts of the puzzle” that individuals don’t know how to do in exchange for the parts of the puzzle they do know how to do.

    do you honestly find it appropriate to call someone who downloads free software a “beggar?”

    what criteria must a person fill in order not to be a “beggar” in the bp community?

    that’s all i can contribute for today.

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    dainismichel
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    @dainismichel

    well, one thing is actually fielding the comments. i mean, hey, ya wanna call them “topics for conversation,” i’m more than happy to do so. just give me some lead in time and a few missed shots and i’ll come around. i’ll even run your community for you and educate your entire user population on the way the programming team likes to be communicated with. “bugs” “topics for conversation” “f-ups” “doinks” “things that aren’t my fault” “stuff that’s broken for whatever reason” — it does not matter.

    the point is fielding the comments and having a healthy cycle of discourse and development. we have to understand: buddypress is not doing that now. it’s not a healthy environment for business owners, so we have to deal with it.

    i’d love to see BuddyPress turn the corner on this issue. i’d love to use BuddyPress on my commercial sites. i don’t know how to replace the BuddyPress activity stream, and i’d appreciate it if there were a list of comparable plugins right here on this thread. but again, that may be perceived as threatening. but it’s not — not for healthy business people.

    healthy business people go: here you go, here are our competitors, here is how we are different and better in these categories.

    but this is “free” software and well, the community does seem very very sensitive. not just sensitive in an emotional way, but sensitive in a: how dare you want your site to work, you are rude, now your site is broken so what nah nah nah kind of way.

    i really commend Paul Gibbs for asking the question “Why wouldn’t you use BuddyPress for an important, life-saving website?”

    — it means he inquired. and now we are responding. not because we are rude, but because he asked. these are our best answers, and hey, it ain’t so bad is it?

    i kind of feel like i’m trying to “rescue” buddypress or something, and in a sense i am, cuz i want buddypress to work properly, and i can’t find an alternative.

    hey, thanks for this thread and for your participation :-)

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