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Forum vs. Activity Stream split personality

  • Avatar of snark
    snark
    Participant

    @snark

    Running BP 1.2 with WP 2.9.1 single-user. Ok, I’m working to clarify this family of issues related to Forum / Activity stream integration:

    1) When deleting posts in the Activity stream, they are not deleted in the Forum. Any way to accomplish this? It used not to work in the other direction either (deleting Topics/replies in Forum was not deleting them in the Activity stream), but this has finally been fixed with the final release of BP1.2 (see http://buddypress.org/forums/topic/forum-topic-delete-doesnt-delete-activity-feeds ).

    2a) If a user posts a reply to a Topic in the Forum, it shows up in the Activity stream, as it should. But if a user replies to a forum Topic or Topic Reply in the Activity Stream, it doesn’t show up in the Forum.

    2b) You can “reply to a reply” to a Topic in the Activity stream, which is then threaded, but you cannot “reply to a reply” to a Topic in the Forum itself.

    2c) For any replies to a post in the Activity Stream, an email notifier is sent to the creator of the post being replied to, but for replies to the same post in the Forum, an email notifier is not sent.

    3) You can “Favorite” a post in the Activity stream, but you can’t “Favorite” that same post in the Forum. (See my trac ticket — http://trac.buddypress.org/ticket/1883)

    There seems to be a split personality going on between the Forum and the Activity stream, and I’m looking for ways to close the gap. This, I believe, is precisely the function of Buddypress, to merge WordPress with bbPress and add new social networking features.

    Basically, it’s a one-way street from the Forum to the Activity stream, and I’m looking for a way of making it a two-way street, so that anything you do in the Activity stream shows up at the source in the Forum. Adding the Activity stream feature of threaded replies to the Forum would be great as well — if you can have these threaded conversations in the Activity stream, why not in the Forum too, where it should be more full-featured?

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  • Avatar of Paul Gibbs
    Paul Gibbs
    Keymaster

    @djpaul

    1. You are deleting activity stream comments, not forum posts.

    2a. Because it is a activity stream reply, not a forum post.

    2b. Because it’s a forum post, not an activity stream comment.

    3. See above (you get the idea, I’m sure).

    There was a lengthy discussion around this. I think on a Trac ticket. The resolution so far was to create a new option on the BP admin settings, “Disable activity stream commenting on blog and forum posts?”

    Can anyone remember the ticket number?

    Avatar of r-a-y
    r-a-y
    Moderator

    @r-a-y

    Added back in 2189:

    http://trac.buddypress.org/changeset/2189

    I had a ticket about it:

    http://trac.buddypress.org/ticket/1419

    But there are probably a few others in Trac.

    DJPaul – I think you’re referring to this long discussion thread:

    http://buddypress.org/forums/topic/new-12-swa-and-blogforum-syncing-feedback-needed

    Man, Akismet is loving me today!

    Avatar of snark
    snark
    Participant

    @snark

    Ok. I found the General BP setting to “Disable activity stream commenting on blog and forum posts?”, which I set to “disable”. I think this is a good solution — users can reply to Group or Activity posts, which are synced in both places, but now if they want to reply to a Forum post that they are reading in the Activity stream, they have to click through to the Forum post and reply there. This will keep the site from generating two sets of conversations.

    As to my point #3, I’m still hoping for a site-wide “Favorites” option, but especially for Forum topics and replies. This is why I have filed a trac ticket for it, which others seem to agree is an issue to be fixed.

    Thanks for the tip!

    Avatar of snark
    snark
    Participant

    @snark

    Thanks for the links, @r-a-y — those discussions were helpful, and I can see that this has been an ongoing discussion for at least the last couple months.

    For now I’ve disabled Forum replies in the activity stream, to avoid the “forked conversation” issue of having some topic relies in the Forum and some in the AS. I’m still wrestling with the whole Groups thing and the Groups comment box at the top of each Groups page — I know for a fact that when I open this up to 10k+ members of my current forum, many, many of them will just start posting their topics in the Group page, rather than creating a Topic in a Group Forum. Maybe I should just open it all up and let it be chaotic, and let the user community figure out how to self-regulate?

    The other thing I’m still looking for is a sitewide Favorites option, so users can mark Forum Topics, Group AS posts, or blog posts as Favorites — currently you can only do that with Group AS posts. It looks like @JohnJamesJacoby is working on such a plugin — see http://buddypress.org/forums/topic/favorite-button-available-on-singlephp — which hopefully will be ready soon and solve this particular issue.

    Avatar of willbernard
    willbernard
    Participant

    @willbernard

    I’d still love to see some functionality added that syncs up activity stream replies with forum replies. Is that a possibility? For now I just turned replying off but it would be hugely helpful to have the option of replying on a forum which then shows up on the activity stream or vice versa.

    Am I dreaming? Or is that a remote possibility?

    Avatar of rich! @ etiviti
    rich! @ etiviti
    Participant

    @nuprn1

    i was dreaming about it last night and had a few moments this morning between meetings….

    so how about something like this?

    http://files.etiviti.com/misc/buddypress/buddypress-activity-stream-on-forum-posts.gif

    Pulls in the activity-comments for a forum post

    Avatar of kriskl
    kriskl
    Participant

    @kriskl

    @etivity YES!!

    this is good stuff ;)

    please make it reality

    Avatar of rich! @ etiviti
    rich! @ etiviti
    Participant

    @nuprn1

    I’ll get something added into group forum extras development in the next day or so

    - the functionality is basic – no replying but there is a activity permalink, and probably some css work is required

    Avatar of kriskl
    kriskl
    Participant

    @kriskl

    you are a star! :)

    Avatar of abcde666
    abcde666
    Participant

    @erich73

    Avatar of rich! @ etiviti
    rich! @ etiviti
    Participant

    @nuprn1

    uploaded to the development version:

    http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/buddypress-group-forum-extras/download/

    requires a theme edit (details on the forum extras admin page after activating the subplugin)

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