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  • Avatar of me9
    me9
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    @me9

    Ah thanks that makes it more clear.

    But why should a admin want to use buddypres forum and bbpress forum ?

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  • Avatar of Paul Gibbs
    Paul Gibbs
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    @djpaul

    There’s no reason to use both. The BuddyPress integration is the old method, and the bbPress 2 plugin is the new method.

    Avatar of me9
    me9
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    @me9

    Oke but why should i use buddy press and bbpress and not only bbpress ?

    Thats the ham question.

    Would be great if you could make it claer.

    Thanks

    Avatar of nickzee
    nickzee
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    @nickzee

    Thank you Paul. I have this same conflict. Understanding the best set up for my situation. My struggle is knowing the difference and how to use them.

    I’m using The Bounce Theme from themeforrest which is buddypress friendly. (http://themeforest.net/item/bounce-professional-wordpress-buddypress-theme/2324726?sso?WT.ac=category_item&WT.seg_1=category_item&WT.z_author=GhostPool)

    Can you elaborate a bit more on your last comment? It opened a window of understanding for me.

    My current set up is:
    Settings > Buddypress > Components > Unchecked “Discussion Forums”
    Settings > Forums > Forums base “forums”, Forum slug “forum” (although I would like my own names)
    Settings > Forums > Unchecked “Enable Group Forums”

    From here can you explain how to set a landing page so that it looks like site wide forums (“mydomain.com/forums”)? Ie; can see all forum at once, then enter a forum to see the topics, then enter the topics to see the comments. I can find them if I go to a bbpress forum and click “view” (ie; /forums/forum/forum-rules/) then remove “forum/forum-rules/” to just have “mydomain.com/forums”, but that is not a “page” and cannot be “edited” and by default says, “Forums Archive – mydomain”. ( I think I know this but want to see your way)

    Additionally, if I am at my buddypress profile page (admin) and click “forums”, it takes me to /members/admin/forums/ which seems to be different from /forums/forum/. And when it does it shows topics and not the forums I created in bbpress.

    I’d imagine there is something I have missed.
    I’ve:
    Watched: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0jSsra_n0c
    Read: http://codex.buddypress.org/user/setting-up-a-new-installation/installing-group-and-sitewide-forums/#a-installing-forums-for-groups-only
    Read: http://wpmu.org/guide-to-buddypress-forums-how-to-set-up-group-or-sitewide-forums/

    Sorry I’m this is confusing. I am so twisted and upside down with this. It’s the best I can do with out showing you.

    Thank you Buddypress for the hard work you have put into your products!

    Avatar of Paul Gibbs
    Paul Gibbs
    Keymaster

    @djpaul

    @me9 bbPress is a forum, BuddyPress is a social layer for your website. Different things, different uses.

    Avatar of Paul Gibbs
    Paul Gibbs
    Keymaster

    @djpaul

    @nickzee If you’ve still got a Page called “Forums”, delete it. It’s not required and confuses bbPress.

    /members/admin/forums/ shows a filtered view of the forums for that specific user. We use bbPress 2 on this site, so my list of forum topics that I’ve started are listed on my profile, http://buddypress.org/community/members/djpaul/forums/

    Avatar of nickzee
    nickzee
    Participant

    @nickzee

    Thank you Paul.

    I don’t have a “page” called “forums”. That is what the forum archive links too.

    I don’t know why, but I am more confused then ever. Perhaps if I share what I want to achieve, someone can tell me how to achieve it.

    I want:
    Forums have to be precedent (and sidebar), like buddypress.org/support/ (no archive)
    The ease of use, such as this forum. Ie; Forums divided into subjects and topics in those forums.
    The functionality of buddypress. Ie; user member profiles and such.
    And the two to work together.

    I know this is possible, but wrapping my mind around what settings to disable/enable and what slugs to use or not, are out of my league. Today, I have spent 5+ hours trying to configure, yesterday, at least that many hours or more.

    thank you for the help. Not sure why it’s so difficult to grasp.

    Avatar of me9
    me9
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    @me9

    I have exactly the same problem its making me crazy

    Avatar of nickzee
    nickzee
    Participant

    @nickzee

    Any success @me9?

    Avatar of me9
    me9
    Participant

    @me9

    With bbpress yes, buddy press no.

    I want to use buddypress with out groups and there seems to be a plugin only i dont get it maby you do.

    http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/buddypress-restrict-group-creation/

    i want to use buddypress instead of bbpress because there much much more plugins and it just seems better.

    Avatar of LabSecrets
    LabSecrets
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    @labsecrets

    Please watch and follow this step by step video guide on the new bbPress and BuddyPress versions. I guarantee it will help sort out your questions.  If any remain, I’m happy to help you further :-)

    http://labzip.com/the-definitive-guide-to-buddypress-bbpress-configuration/

    Cheers!

    Spence

    Avatar of Paul Gibbs
    Paul Gibbs
    Keymaster

    @djpaul

    Woops, I split the wrong topic. Apologies for confusion.

    Avatar of nickzee
    nickzee
    Participant

    @nickzee

    Ohhh! An updated video. Thank you Spence (@labsecrets)! I saw your original video and it helped a lot, but i was still left with confusion (nothing on your part).

    Watching the new one now! Thank you again.

    Avatar of nickzee
    nickzee
    Participant

    @nickzee

    @labsecrets at 3:50. Do I need to completely remove buddypress and reinstall without discussion forum OR can I just turn them off now and that be sufficient and equal to installing without? My original buddypress install was several weeks ago, and with that Discussion Forum was checked. If so, do I need to drop tables or options from the database to make buddypress forget it was ever installed on my site?

    Thank you again Spence. Very concise video instruction. Just what I need.

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    LabSecrets
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    @labsecrets

    Hi NickZee,

    glad it was helpful ;-)

    While I can’t say 100% whether you need to completely reinstall, I will suggest that if you previously had selected the BuddyPress option to allow forums (the first RED FLAG in the video ;-), it created a bb-config,php file that may be the root of some troubles. In the previous video I showed folks to delete that, but in this case, it may be sufficient now to simply toggle the option “off”, save, and then re-save permalinks.

    If nothing else, it won’t hurt you to try deleting that old bb-config.php file as it is no longer going to be used by BuddyPress if you use the bbPress 2.2.2+ plugin instead.
    In any event, I do not think you should or will have to manually drop any tables from the db… that’s just going to lead to some troubles given how seamless the new operation works (if you follow step by step by step).

    I’m going to suggest in Trac (and here)  that the wording on that particular BuddyPress option be changed or even that the option be completely removed… as the way it is now written is not helpful. I admit that it even took me four or five tries before realizing that it was referring to the “old” BuddyPress forums, even though the wording says “bbPress”.

     

     

    Avatar of nickzee
    nickzee
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    @nickzee

    The shortcodes were the ticket for me. Back up and running now! My theme would only pull an archived page (even thought is buddypress fitted). Also I could not create a page called “forums” when the forum slug was “forums” in bbpress settings. The page would be automatically slugged, “fourms-2″.

    For not I am not going to delete the bb-config.php and see how it works. So far so good.

    Thank you again Spence labsecrets. Wonderful job. You’re not so evil ;)

    @me9, did this video help you?

    Avatar of LabSecrets
    LabSecrets
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    @labsecrets

    Great news Nick!
    You can see in my recent post, we fixed a similar solution for Canvas 5 from WooThemes.http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/non-functional-index-page-when-bbpress-2-1rc4-is-used-with-woothemes-canvas-5-05/
    Your problem imho is that your theme is hijacking the content area in a way that prevents the new bbPress code from working. As such, the solution would be found most likely in your theme’s page.php or similar, where the default archive pages are created.
    Cheers!
    Spence.

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