BP Content Tags Project – Call For Ideas
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Howdy all. I just finished a project for bp and find myself needing another one. I was going to start a ‘group blogs’ plugin but after talking with Andy I have a different project in mind.
Me: “Andy I’m starting Group Blogs today. You haven’t already started something like this have you? Got any ideas?”
Paraphrasing Andy: “If you want to do something truly useful. Group content tagging would be nice. Make Groups 10X more useful and 100X more powerful.”
Me: “Tags?”
Andy: “Tagging content for Groups. Blog posts. Wire posts. Any content. It would be the same as having Group Blogs”
Me: “Tags?”
Andy being patient: “Maybe groups can have a specific tag associated with them. Users can use that tag to direct content to the group. Perhaps with admin or mod approval.”
Me: “Tags? (Andy flips the light on in the dim recesses of my dark room) Tags?! Oh, ya content tags! We could organize group content that way. Make it all available and discoverable. Group content is what the group decides is group content. Whoa. TAGS!”
So giving the ability to associate content with a tag, tag management and a tag widget in bp is my next little project. Nothing new right? WP has tagging and categories for blog posts. bbpress has tagging for forum topics. Well, what we’re talking about here is the ability to link *all* site content to a tag. Not just blogs and forum content.
First of all, I’m thinking that anything with an URL should be taggable. Also any content that is in a site table should be taggable. A site has:
Blogs that we can get blog id/post id
Forums that we can get forum id/topic id/post id
Wires that we can get component id/post id
Interesting and useful content doesn’t exist only on the current site. Anything that can be resolved to an URL should be taggable.
I’m just talking out loud here. Any ideas people? I already know that Nicola Greco is off and running with this. Nicola was there when Andy and I were chatting about this in IRC. Nicola is in on this project. He’s probably off and running, cutting code and has it half done by now. (Where did I put that leash and whip?)
I already see further uses for bp content tagging. See this: http://buddypress.org/forums/topic.php?id=909
Anybody got any thoughts on this before I go off on some tangent of my own?
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wires tag is useful ? YES! i think twitter should have tags too,
as i agree with this project and as i said i’ll be very active, and given that i made a plugin that does a thing like that for groups,
i’m here
Shouldn’t you belong to the group “Transformers ARE awesome?”
Which I mean, they are… The new movie left something to be desired, and Voltron was always better than Transformers, but that’s a little off topic for this convo…
I think, from what I gather, that what you’re really talking about are categorized group links, probably with similar relative content like the blogroll style links functionality already has, that can be approved or denied by a group moderator or administrator. Maybe call them Glinks? A new functionality for generating a link from a website to yours, via a mini app or from the group control panel, for content relative to the topic.
This could be further extended by allowing Glinks for tags, or blogs, or forum posts also… “The people viewing this *blog/tag/post* also thought these links were interesting…” kind of thing…
Make sense?
I hope that group creation isn’t rendered obsolete, quite the opposite actually. I am used to using groups for permission based structure, to allow one group of users to perform a task that others cannot, and vice versa. I hope that the groups functionality is expanded in further versions of *Press to allow for certain groups to moderate other groups, blogs, forums, etc… In a real life community, groups, users, and content naturally exist within some kind of hierarchy, otherwise it tends to become a mish-mash of conflicting content. This is basically why blogs allow for multiple categories and sub categories, for without that structure, it’s just a page full of random jibber jabber.
This holds true in the virtual world, where certain groups of individuals are held as a more credible source than others, some groups have rankings and attributes that allow some group members to be more valuable than others, etc…
Am I rambling now?
The external tagging has to refer to an url. All I can record is the author of the tag says it fits in the context ‘Awesome’, it’s a piece of content of the type ‘Blog Post’ from site ‘Transformers-R-Us’.
It’s impossible not to have external content not be Glinks.
The internal tagging would be component/item. The internal tagging would afford lots more flexibility in display, search, browsing. I can discover alot more about a chunk of content if I have access to blog id/post id -> (get me that record) -> author, date, content etc.
What i think of that
The user:
Yuhu, i’m an user
I read a post,
i say that’s amazing it talks about ‘Mammalucco group’!
I’ve to tag this content for the group ‘Mammalucco group’!
(after the post there is a blank field where there is written, SHOW THIS ON A GROUP)
The user:
Ok, i type in the fields ‘Mammalu’
A funny ajax box says me: Autocompletation : Mammalucco Group, Mammaluna Group
I click on Mammalucco Group and i click <Tag it!>
After loading appear a message that says tagged!
I say Yuhu!
I go to groups page and in the “Tagged Items area” appears my item!
( Sorry for the stupid and funny workflow but this is my idea
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Hi burtadsit, I read it all (exclamationmark
) English is not my “tongue”, but I hope I got the main idea. It sounds AWESOME!!!Just to check, if I got that right: (I think I would need exactly something like that, because I am running a community for young-leaders who can submit and search for relevant resources in youth-work. )
With that project I have tagged almost everything on my whole mu-site. Posts (sure…), but also bp-events, forum-stuff, wire-stuff, groups, etc…
I can collect those tags for groups etc, but also show them in a kind of sitewide (forum, buddypress,”normal”wpmu) tagcloud? THAT WOULD BE GREAT!!! So everybody finds exactly what they are searching for… (better than eny search engine…).
Right? (if not, that would be a suggestion for a feature or something
Thanks for your work!
Michael
Howdy, John. lol, ya me too. Blame Andy. It’s his fault. I kept looking at the simplicity of the solution and going “Nah. Can’t be that easy”. The only major restriction I’ve found is that the taxnonomy names such as ‘post_tag’ and ‘category’ are limited to 32 chars. It’s a varchar(32) field in the table.
<group>-<tag>-<transformers-are-truly-awesome-here-in-north-america-in-the-month-of-march>
Won’t work.
Looks like it’s going to be a ‘tiny url’ solution to that one. It just so happens that the fn md5() in php returns a 32 char hash value. I don’t think that is a coincidence.
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