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Buddypress.org shutting down


  • coolhunt
    Participant

    @coolhunt

    Hey Guys,

    Is buddypress approaching EOL?
    seems like no one is home in this official support forum
    seems like theres always spam now on this
    seems like there are now more “MEMBERS” plugins like buddyboss that compete with buddypress

    Should we start looking at alternatives?

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  • coolhunt
    Participant

    @coolhunt

    Does anyone have a good simple beautiful free theme that just works for BP.
    Im using 2020 on a project and its horrible…

    please please help obiwan save us


    Brajesh Singh
    Participant

    @sbrajesh

    Hi
    We are in the process of releasing a free theme for BuddyPress which should compete with any available premium theme on design/quality.

    Since the holidays are here, we are scheduling for 15th January. I am hoping to encourage BuddyPress adoption with our free theme.

    Regards
    Brajesh


    coolhunt
    Participant

    @coolhunt

    @sbrajesh any chance to get an early preview of the theme? 😉


    Brajesh Singh
    Participant

    @sbrajesh

    Hi @coolhunt,
    Thank you.

    I am sorry but I won’t be able to provide a preview currently. For the 2nd theme onwards, we can do an early preview.

    Thank you
    Brajesh


    01systems
    Participant

    @01systems

    Hello all – I’d like to agree with the quote below from @johnjamesjacoby

    I believe BuddyPress is, still to this day, the single most important piece of software on the open web. It empowers anyone to foster free and open dialogue with the privacy and freedom of having their own website on their own hardware, while also being powerful enough to scale up and grow as a community of people garners momentum. And it empowers people like the folks at BuddyBoss to grow even beyond BuddyPress itself.


    @buddyboss
    – Any cool improvements that can be ported back to buddypress would be appreciated I’m sure (^_^)


    @coolhunt
    – yes there are issues I agree, its not been easy and I refer you to the quote above from @johnjamesjacoby | lol @ below, funee and looks like we are in the same boat together!

    Does anyone have a good simple beautiful free theme that just works for BP.
    Im using 2020 on a project and its horrible…
    please please help obiwan save us


    @sbrajesh
    – BuddyDev website is very nice, good work.

    No-on active in the IRC channel? Some other communities I follow have nice integrations with IRC and Slack.

    I’d love to contribute any way that I can and have registered to show my support for “the single most important piece of software on the open web”

    Great work, thank you


    BuddyBoss
    Participant

    @buddyboss

    @hochingj Replying to your comment:

    With as much as @buddyboss depends on buddypress and with how much they charge, I sure hope they are doing the ethical thing and donating to the buddypress group that they are profiting off of.

    I think there is some misunderstandings here. First it is important to know that the BuddyBoss Platform is 100% free and open source. We do not charge for it, you can download it and develop on it for free right now. We are providing a feature rich and actively maintained plugin and we are funding all of the development and documentation for it out of pocket, and not charging anything for it. We did this because our business previously did depend on BuddyPress and our customers didn’t like what BuddyPress was offering, and we believed we could provide a better solution that met our customer’s needs, and so that is exactly what we did.

    Our solution is open source just like BuddyPress, and we will open it up to contributors on Github shortly. If you want to contribute to our platform we will welcome you with open arms. Our only goal is to provide a great service to our customers, and our features are driven entirely by customer feedback.

    We are profiting only on our theme, whose code is not pulling from anything created by the BuddyPress community. We no longer depend on BuddyPress to any extent for our new products so there is nothing for us to contribute to. We are contributing to the actual users of BuddyPress, by giving away a free version of BuddyPress that is more feature rich and developed at a faster pace, and is backwards compatible to BuddyPress, but not dependent on BuddyPress for its current and future development.

    If you fast forward to a year from now our plugin will be very different from BuddyPress, even more so than it already is. The differences are big enough that it would have made little sense to try to do this through BuddyPress. We cannot depend on others to do what our customer base is asking us for. We need to move really fast, and BuddyPress moves really slow, and is actively adverse to growing its feature set too large. But our customers do not want a streamlined plugin, they do not want to depend on other plugins. They want all of the community features out of the box and integrated with each other, and as much as possible, they want that right now. We need the ability to take common requests and build solutions to those requests, without having to ask permission to someone else first. This is what our customers want from us and our obligation is to our customers above all else.


    BuddyBoss
    Participant

    @buddyboss

    @jjj

    Somehow my last comment got deleted so posting again. This is Michael here.

    I really appreciate the nice things you posted here about BuddyBoss. I’ve also enjoyed hanging out with you at many WordCamps, going years back. Our issues with BuddyPress are not that it is coded poorly or anything like that, I think the developers have done a tremendous job with what is there, and appreciate everything you have contributed to the project personally. Our main issue is just that it has evolved really slowly over the past 5 years, and the market has gotten way more competitive in that timeframe. This has hurt our ability to grow as a company. Customers are leaving BuddyPress and switching to more feature complete SaaS solutions. But then at the same time, they want to be able to customize everything like you can do in WordPress, and then they are stuck. There really is no solution available that has all the features people want, and is also available to customize and extend. So we are trying to address that for our customers. At the end of the day, BuddyPress is free to copy anything we do and merge or adapt it into BuddyPress; open source works both ways. Hopefully there are not too many hard feelings, we’re all working toward the same goal, but as you said, in different directions.


    coolhunt
    Participant

    @coolhunt

    @buddyboss

    Thank you for clarifying. I was a bit confused how the new buddyboss system worked. For sure – choosing between Ultimate Member vs Buddyboss – I’d definitely choose Buddyboss because of its pedigree in the BP community.

    Thanks for great software and keep up the fire!


    nukeban
    Participant

    @nukeban

    I’m totally new to the BuddyPress universe. So far I’ve been unable to find any site which uses either BuddyPress or BuddyBoss. I’m sure they exist, just can’t find them. Posted that question on this forum, no reply yet. Emailed BuddyBoss, and they politely informed me they have no way of connecting me with any of their client sites so that I can try their system.
    Gotta say, so far my first impression is that none of this is ready for prime time.

    FYI, while I’m ignorant of all things BuddyPress, I have been working online since 1995 and have coded my own blog and forum software from scratch.

    Anyway, I’m hoping to be able to join anybody’s BuddySomething site so I can experience this software as a user. Activism sites would be ideal, but any site will do. Thanks for any advice.


    John James Jacoby
    Keymaster

    @johnjamesjacoby

    @buddyboss Hey Michael!

    I totally understand what you mean. I feel the same way about WordPress. Even simple whitespace changes there become endless discussions that result in no changes and no agreement, and worse… no fun.

    My own personal concern here, comes from everyone involved in BuddyPress purposely trying to create an inviting, open, fun, rewarding experience to contribute to the project, and seeing talented folks like yourselves choose to compete instead of collaborate is the opposite of the target we are shooting for as a project.

    What more could BuddyPress have done? What could the team have done differently? I’ve never really seen much in the way of upstream improvements or recommendations or requests in Trac or the forums from your team. Not that it’s necessary. Not that it’s expected. But there isn’t a history of anyone saying no or shutting y’all down.

    I applaud the independence. I wish all y’all nothing but the best. And I hope BuddyPress is inspired from the creativity and inventiveness that BuddyBoss is known for.


    galato
    Participant

    @galato

    So @sbrajesh, @imath what about the PHP version?

    Still no change on the complains i made consigning the previous version on :- <a href=”https://buddypress.org/support/topic/buddypress-5-1-0/”

    Ok nice and congratulations on your new release “Buddypress 5.1.1”, Good

    So please, can I ask
    What should does with the latest PHP version (php 7.1 and above) Do !?

    Do bubbypress now have premium version, that supports the latest PHP version?


    nukeban
    Participant

    @nukeban

    Here’s 2 cents of input from a new comer…

    It’s great that BuddyPress is free, that’s certainly an important part of the market to serve, and I applaud members for doing so. Truly.

    However, there’s a downside to free too, nobody is obligated to the user, as is the case with paid software. So for example, if I were to succeed in my goals I’d have a social site full of serious professional people, who aren’t going to be easy for me to attract as they are already quite busy. I can’t afford to invest tons of time in winning them over, and then have some software let me down.

    So I’m looking for some situation such as I have with a WordPress.com paid account, where if something technical goes wrong they jump on it immediately and fix it, and I can stay focused on content, marketing, networking etc. The WordPress support team says they would help me with BuddyPress if they could, but it’s not their software so there’s only so much help I can expect, which seems entirely reasonable to me.

    I could come here for assistance, but I would have paid the BuddyPress team nothing, so it wouldn’t be reasonable for me to expect help unless somebody just happens to feel like it on that particular day.

    So as seen from here, BuddyBoss is not really competing with BuddyPress, but providing a different kind of service, a commercial service. The downside with BuddyBoss, best I can tell, is that BuddyBoss isn’t really up and running yet. You know, they’ve been unable to point me to a single one of their client’s sites, a limitation they explained to me quite promptly and politely.

    Wordpress.com has a theme which offers some level of social site features, but so far I’ve been unable to make any sense of it. If it’s confusing to me, it will likely also be to any new users I am able to attract.

    So my first impression is that BuddyPress appears to be interesting hobby software generously provided for free, but if I want a more serious setup I’ll have to start looking beyond the WordPress environment.


    coolhunt
    Participant

    @coolhunt

    @nukeban buddyboss is running I am/was a customer

    You should give there boss theme a try. It’s very turnkey. They also have a theme called one social that works really well. Both out of the box works fantastic


    nukeban
    Participant

    @nukeban

    Thanks for your input Cool Hunt. Can you direct me to any BuddyBoss or BuddyPress site which I could join as a user? Is there perhaps a directory of such sites somewhere?


    svlearningcurve28
    Participant

    @svlearningcurve28

    A newbie here chiming in,

    Buddyboss looks promising. I bought a license for the boss theme to use with their fork of the platform. Some observational points:

    The boss theme is nice, but is missing some very basic functions on the mobile version (search being one). Support would not say when it would be implemented, just that it is “on the todo list”

    There is no dedicated support forum for buddyboss (at least that I can find). As a paying user, you do get access to the support ticketing system. But a forum for (even paying) users would be nice.

    Their feature “roadmap” is “coming soon” and has been for at least a month

    Their ‘Get Support’ is also “coming soon”

    Their “Contribute’ is also coming soon

    At this time they are giving a hard sell on their product licenses. Including a “lifetime deal” for $1000.

    Don’t get me wrong, as a developer I am happy to pay for features that will serve my customers, but without the above items (especially the feature roadmap), I am very reluctant to shell out more cash for something that “might (never) be”.

    So for now it is a waiting game with a periodic pinging of their website to see when and if anything changes.


    evillizard
    Participant

    @evillizard

    It’s the best wordpress plugin imho …

    If not for buddypress i don’t think i would be using wordpress

    And with people like @sbrajesh who assisted me when i was totally clueless.. The Dude is practically a legend… And il’d forever be grateful to him, We Need more people like that on earth


    Because buddypress is open-source i don’t think people who use it would let it go that easy .. I support open-source because i believe knowledge should be distributed freely for quick advancement of the human race as a whole.


    hochingj
    Participant

    @hochingj

    I would also donate if there is continued development.


    hochingj
    Participant

    @hochingj

    I have to apologize to Michael from Buddyboss. I did not realize their platform was free. Kudos to you guys, you are doing a great job. I have been testing your plugin and have been extremely impressed.


    techhnyne
    Participant

    @andrewpina

    buddyboss is not free you have to pay over $265 annually if you want the full package including the theme + updates

    You can download the BuddyBoss Platform ( the fork of BP ) for free from github.
    https://github.com/buddyboss/buddyboss-platform


    BuddyBoss
    Participant

    @buddyboss

    @techhnyne

    BuddyBoss Platform (our version of BuddyPress) is free, including updates. The platform includes all of the social functionality, while the theme is purely for layout and is optional. You do pay for the theme, just as you would pay for a nice BuddyPress theme. You can also build your own theme, or use some generic free theme from the WordPress themes repo if you prefer.


    @hochingj
    Thanks!


    coolhunt
    Participant

    @coolhunt

    @buddyboss

    your themes are just FREAKING AMAZING!!!!! I really love them

    quick questions..

    – The last time I installed BuddyBoss Platform.. it “conflicted” with my BP install.. (is that still the case? you can only either have BuddyBoss installed or BP installed..)

    – Can you use the BuddyBoss Platform Theme on a BP install? (meaning without the BuddyBoss Platform)

    – I noticed that the only theme available now is the Boss 2.0. Will you be only making themes for BuddyBoss Platform and will you be transitioning out of further developing the Boss 2.0 theme or other themes just for BP

    **
    Again.. Im such a huge fan.. really fantastic work


    BuddyBoss
    Participant

    @buddyboss

    @coolhunt

    Thank you!

    – You cannot run BuddyBoss Platform and BP at the same time. BuddyBoss is a fork of BuddyPress and shares a lot of the same underlying code, so they cannot run at the same time.

    – These are the themes available: https://www.buddyboss.com/themes/
    “BuddyBoss Theme” is for BuddyBoss Platform.
    Boss 2.0 and OneSocial are actually for BuddyPress.

    I know it’s a bit confusing, but long term our product stack is basically just BuddyBoss Platform and BuddyBoss Theme which is actually very simple. We’re not making any new BuddyPress themes. The goal is to have everything you need out of the box from us with one plugin, one theme. That way we can focus all of our efforts on updating that product stack and just make it really awesome. We are adding more options over time to make the theme really flexible with layouts, especially via Elementor, so that people can take that one theme and make it look like anything.


    coolhunt
    Participant

    @coolhunt

    @buddyboss

    I totally understand what you mean about having your product stack working out of the box.

    – Suggestion.. I wish you guys would have an “escape” export OUT of Buddyboss and back to BP. *its just a piece of mind thing.

    The attraction that I have with BP/WP is that I dont “feel” locked in to a software provider.. its a bit unreasonable of course.. but it just keeps me “feeling free”

    **BONUS**

    I think i would feel better paying the price (dont get me wrong.. its reasonably priced) if the Buddyboss platform would also address mobile-first-pagespeed. It drives me crazy that every site I launch on BP/WP scores poorly on googles pagespeed test. — its pretty clear that the main reason for this are loading a bunch of JS and CSS.. certainly there are many reasons why a site scores poorly but it would great if BuddyBoss Platform solved for some of that.

    – How compatible is BuddyBoss Platform with the caching plugins like WP-SuperCache (and the like)

    Im just a BP/WP hobbyist so Im sensitive to the “annual license renewal fee” – How does your renewal fees work? Is the renewal fee the same price as the initial purchase price?

    LASTLY (I swear its the last question)

    I’ve noticed that I still rely on WP plugins that interact with posts.. is the BuddyBoss Platform and Theme overall (reasonably) compatible with other WP plugins out there?


    techhnyne
    Participant

    @andrewpina

    @buddyboss then why when i go to the website it only has pricing and not download?

    if you say its free i should not have to pay anything for a download. if you say a theme is what im paying for then why is there no basic theme thats free or even the plugin without a theme so users can built their own theme?

    do i really need to spend over $200 to try it out because im skeptical. i rather save the headache of filing a return

    Sorry, I just remembered that I can download the free plugin:
    https://github.com/buddyboss/buddyboss-platform

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