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Hey @planetearthlings sorry i didn’t reply earlier, even though i have a design background and do a lot of customizing via css and css3 i just wouldn’t have time to commit to helping on another project as i am so busy with other projects right now, i think the reason you aren’t getting any responses is because you have to understand that most people active here are already committed to there own ideas and projects, the only thing id suggest is trying to start some kind of community project that a group of individuals can all chip in and help with.

To do this though you would have to lay down the full expectations of the project and goals, id assume the people involved helping would only do it if it was a none profit project that does not benefit any one single individual or entity, because that’s basically like asking for people to all chip into a business idea/venture and let others build it for you so you gain profit from all their work/time dedicated and help they gave you.

You need to explain with greater detail, when the website is finished and launched will their be fees involved for usage and if so will anyone profit from it?

If it infact being built as a totally free to use website and not designed for you to ultimately make a profit how will the website sustain itself with servers costs, server administration, admin and moderation of the website itself, and growth?

@bphelp i agree with you on alot of things you just said, i also have a different view on a few things.

when it comes to software you need to have something proprietary like the BIG social networks

Ok we all know that buddypress is not designed to beat sites like fb etc, but it is by no means an unusable platform to build upon and expand into a large social network if done the right way.
Alot of this will ultimately depend on resources we can throw into a buddypress powered site if it began to grow at a rapid rate, it is quite possible one day someone will tap into a niche market using buddypress that goes viral amongst this niche, making the website very successful. I am going to ask you this, what would happen in this scenario, say if someone here did build a site that went viral through no fault of their own as everyone just flocked to use the site that was powered by buddypress, are you saying you would have to give up and close it because buddypress and wordpress wouldn’t cope?

@mcpeanut
I was simply referring to the “change the world” statement. I love BuddyPress/WordPress and have developed plugins for it and I never said it was an unusable platform. You are right about BP and niche markets that is one of the awesome uses for BP but niche doesn’t take on the bold task of changing the world. I simply believe you should set realistic goals. In your scenario that would be awesome if that was the case but I am not sure BP or WP could scale to the point that if “everyone” was on the site at one time like the BIG social networks it would handle that kind of traffic without major issues. Apologies to the OP if this is slightly off topic.

@mcpeanut
Wouldn’t it be nice if someone or a organization would fund the overhead so we could really just test and see how scalable a WP/BP site would be when you have tens of millions of people flocking to the site at one time? That would probably never happen but then again you never know. That it my opinion would be the only way to test WP/BP scalability.

@bphelp wp com and wp org already has “tens of millions of people flocking”. Only problem is they are reluctant to add BP as a social layer. Google did it with G+. But somehow wp thinks it as a stigma so BP is not added to it.

If it did, it could be bigger. BP has the potential to be the next big thing or at least break the monopoly of fb. But fb invested a lot in seed users and secret/background marketing. Though Automattic seem to have some fund and purchase this compny or that from time to time, interest in BP is nil. Even in this site bp org you cannot use all the features of BP. Can you? Devs have their own reasons and power not to do.

You may write to Matt. See if you can motivate him 😉

LOL yes i meant xeon’s haha, that’s me all over spelling something as it sounds 🙂

Yes its expensive but its not intended for buddypress alone although i will test it out with it, its more of a venture into providing affordable hosting to clients etc. I can only afford to pay for it out of my other business revenue.

I just figured seeing as im interested in buddypress and use wordpress i would configure the servers like this seeing as i was purchasing them anyhows.

Too much to go into really as to why i purchased them, there would be no point me making the investment for a buddypress powered site on their own, when i have not yet built a buddypress site i have got traffic for.

@rosyteddy
Not sure exactly what you meant to convey by your reply but your wrong in thinking a single BP/WP site has tens of millions of users are using this platform simultaneously even on wordpress.org I am not talking how many members there are I a am talking about how many people can actively be on a site at the same time before it bottlenecks. I don’t know Matt Mullenweg so I have no affiliation in that direction and I kiss no ones ass to get affiliation because I prefer being humble. FB is not a monopoly. There is other competition out there other than FB so I don’t know where your info comes from. Not to be rude but do you even know what a monopoly is?

@bphelp i think @rosyteddy has missjudged the userbase in general as to how many active users there are at any one time compared to how many people are registered, I also agree fb has by no means the monopoly on anything, look at youtube as an example, i mean you have to class youtube (google) as a sort of social network in a way or not? I mean it has a crazy amount of users that all interact with each other and can post to each other and it all interlinks together with google plus accounts, then there are sites like linkedin which boasts over 300+ million active users and pinterest etc etc, what these sites have essentially done is tapped themselves into that certain ‘NICHE’ we was talking about earlier in the thread.

Not sure exactly what you meant to convey by your reply but your wrong in thinking a single BP/WP site has tens of millions of users are using this platform simultaneously even on wordpress.org I am not talking how many members there are I a am talking about how many people can actively be on a site at the same time before it bottlenecks.

Thanks @bphelp. What I meant was that wordpress com and wordpress org already has plenty of users. If Buddypress was added to this (just as Google added the Google Plus) this user base could go up much, much more. When it would have happened, you could have really known how millions of concurrent users are getting handled by wordpress and/or buddypress. If anyone wants to test for oneself or wants to know how wordpress com (which powers 20% of the net) handles simultaneous users here’s a starting point https://flood.io/blog/10-scaling-wordpress-from-zero-to-hero as well as there are many resources on the net.

FB is not a monopoly. There is other competition out there other than FB so I don’t know where your info comes from. Not to be rude but do you even know what a monopoly is?

May God bless you. I wish this was true. I am not a facebook fan. I will be happy if it just dies like Myspace and Orkut. And I know what monopoly is. If it was the 90’s facebook would have faced anti-trust and other lawsuits like Microsoft did in 90’s. Times have changed. Internet was once a large interconnected network of multiple sites nicely and openly connected by www, email and search engine. Though there were large companies even at that time, there was no one like facebook with so huge amount of data-mining and closed-wall/closed-garden approach. Why do we have to see so many sites just acting as “slave” to facebook with facebook like-buttons, facebook comment-box etc – and they do not even ask me for an option before throwing those buttons and boxes on my unwilling eyes. Youtube has no like-buttons or comment-boxes on other sites, neither has twitter comment boxes on other sites. Many kids these days have no email address but just a facebook account. When WhatsApp was coming up as a real competitor, facebook just gobbled it up by purchase. Sad that WhatsApp could not retain its own independence. If there were just at least 4 or 5 *equally* competing social networks like facebook where peoples’ participation was distributed and ‘load-balanced’ I would not have complained about the “monopoly”. I understand that you are having difficulty in what I am trying to say – I accept that as my failure. But what I am saying is nothing new – even the same concerns have been expressed by several persons openly on the net including Tim Berners Lee, the person who “invented” the http-www protocol and for whom we are enjoying internet as it is now.

I don’t know Matt Mullenweg so I have no affiliation in that direction and I kiss no ones ass to get affiliation because I prefer being humble.

I respect your opinion. What I meant was that if Matt could be inspired or motivated, Buddypress could have reached the next-level. I have posted to Matt several times about Buddypress. And if many did, may be there could have been, may be, a change in the attitude towards Buddypress. Matt is the creator of WordPress and I believe he is the central and key person who can …..
Anyways, there is no conflict in ‘being preferring to humble’ and writing something to him. But obviously you do not think like me. You do not have to. And no problem. I am sure someday someone will pick up the cue and clue and we really will have the inter<—>net that was and the internet of dreams. Thanks to you for your feedback.