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    disha76
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    @disha76

    I have installed Jetpack Like. But when a blog post is Liked / favorited it does not show in my BP Favorit list. Additionally when I favorit a blog post from the activity stream it does not show up in “Like”s under the blog post. How do I disable BP favorit??

    I tried other Like plugins for BP but none works the usual way.

    Another problem with Jetpack Like is it asks my blog visitors or members to register at wordpress.com compulsarily. Am I missing something?

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    djsteveb
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    @djsteveb

    @disha76
    I would not use jetpack and try https://wordpress.org/plugins/buddypress-like/ instead.

    That may do what you are looking for, and it may not.. just a thought.

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    disha76
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    @disha76

    Buddypress-Like does not put any “Like” button below (or anywhere) a blog post in a blog post page. So how do my users like a blog post from the blog post page? When there are lots of Activity its impossible to come to the Activity page and search out where that entry for the blog post is. Am I missing something here ? How does other BP users handle this?

    Buddypress-Like also does not put any “Like” tab in the Profile Tabs like the core BP favorits – so how do I find my own collection of Likes afterwards ??? How do I let other users know what I have liked? Thanks for your reply @djsteveb

    jetpack likes are totally separate from buddypress more like a Facebook like. in regards to the buddypress favoriting you would need to code that in your page template i believe or use a theme which does that already.

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    disha76
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    @disha76

    @ubernaut Thanks. I am not a coder yet :(
    No theme or plugin puts a Like/Favorit button below blog posts in blog pages. Some may do but they do not work at all with WP 4.1, and latest BP.

    Jetpack does it but do not recognize BP – Jetpack has no BP-Jetpack bridge that does this??

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    Henry Wright
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    @henrywright

    Hi @disha76

    I have installed Jetpack Like. But when a blog post is Liked / favorited it does not show in my BP Favorit list.

    As far as I know, Jetpack Likes apply to blog posts only and are completely unrelated to BuddyPress favorites. If you ‘like’ something via Jetpack, then that’s separate to any ‘favoriting’ that you do via BuddyPress.

    Another problem with Jetpack Like is it asks my blog visitors or members to register at wordpress.com compulsarily. Am I missing something?

    I’m not aware of the specifics of Jetpack Likes, but you could try taking a look on their support page. I do believe they have an option to contact someone in their support team:

    http://jetpack.me/support/likes/

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    djsteveb
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    @djsteveb

    @disha76

    I found a few in the WP repo that may do what you are asking..

    https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-ulike/

    https://wordpress.org/plugins/voter-plugin/

    wordpress.org/plugins/likebtn-like-button/

    I have not tried any of these, so I’d love to hear from you if you try any and they work for what you are wanting to achieve. I also have not looked to see if any of these have privacy issues (loading images / data from third party sites like jetpack)

    They say they work with posts, pages and BP activity stuff, and show some shortcodes to add most liked this and that, I assume to places in your theme..

    I hope one of those, or similar will do that trick for you. I may decide to play with that like thing again myself in the near future.

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    disha76
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    @disha76

    Overall it seems Like is not used or not used properly by BP users. Maybe Jetpack Like is used by many individual blogs.

    What is expected usage :
    1) I am speaking of an uniform Like button under a blog post or a photo or any content. I should be able to Like it there. I should be also able to like it from an entry in the activity stream if I so wish. This is how usually Like is handled in almost all social scripts as well as real world social nets.
    2) On hovering or clicking a Like button or a “Liked” link I should be able to see in a scrollable way the names/avtaars of Likers and the total number of Likes
    3) A tab or link in my Profile should show content names / thumbnails of what I liked.
    4) The plugin should disable BP core favorites
    ———-

    When tested with WP4.1, latest BP and Media plugins like rtmedia, the results are:

    • buddypress-like does (4) above , not others
    • love-it.1.0.4 does not work
    • wp-ulike is not a Network plug in at all, its suitable for individual blogs but as a super admin of WP mutlsite you cannot set its features like you can set features of BP – see issues posted by ronia – this and this. While it is nice for Blogs Like buttons do not appear below Media files or Media posts created by Media plugins
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    disha76
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    @disha76

    As far as I know, Jetpack Likes apply to blog posts only and are completely unrelated to BuddyPress favorites. If you ‘like’ something via Jetpack, then that’s separate to any ‘favoriting’ that you do via BuddyPress.

    @henrywright – that is the entire problem. End users want to like/fav/star an item from the stream or in the content itself. They are accustomed in this way. If BP has its own favoriting (though it does not allow to favorit in the blog post itself) it is not an integrated experience for the user. My plugin idea will be ( I am not programmer) to duplicate the comments module, as comments can be now made from everywhere to anywhere – then instead of text entry just allow to click a button and as in comments here also a list of clickers (commentors) would appear as a list of Likers which can be shown in an overlay box.

    as i said before jetpack likes are really more like Facebook likes, you can’t Facebook like something if you aren’t on Facebook any more than you can jetpack like something if you aren’t on wordpress.com the whole idea of jetpack is to give your self hosted blog/site many of the capabilities of a wordpress.com hosted blog/site, so from that perspective how it works is pretty sensible even if most people have no idea about wordpress.com

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    Henry Wright
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    @henrywright

    @disha76

    Even though Jetpack and BuddyPress and both projects under the WordPress ‘umbrella’, they are separate plugins and haven’t been designed to work in that way. That said, both should always be compatible. For example, if you find something stops working as a result of the plugins being installed together and conflicting then you could file a bug report.

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    disha76
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    @disha76

    So, how do we “Like” from a blog post and it shows in Activity stream, and then, we “Like” from Activity stream and it shows under a blog post ( or photo or any content page) ??

    Just as we can do with “Comments” now – why not with “Likes”? This keeps the end-user confused, as a site-owner its impossible to explain to him. In fact how has BP been designed to allow an user to Favorite a blog post which is no longer in the first page of Activity stream or buried deep down somewhere ?

    like i said i’m pretty sure you would need to put that into your themes post template but it stands to reason that should maybe be a core feature might want to create a trac ticket for that one :)

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    djsteveb
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    @djsteveb

    I am guessing it would easy to add a function to one of the like / voter plugins mentioned above ( https://buddypress.org/support/topic/how-to-like/#post-231535 ) – that would also write something to the BP activity table – which would then show likes or votes on posts and such on the activity stream – if those like / vote buttons also work on media that is uploaded through rTmedia (or the new (beta) mediapress plugin) then that would be pulled into the activity feed.

    The tricky part beyond that is that buddypress does not have an integrated media thing – so there would need to be some kind of bridge between rtmedia, or mediapress or whatever was handling the media to display “likes” somewhere on the profiles.

    Maybe this is something the rtcamp or mediapress plugin guy can add that functionality or someone can create some kind of bridge / api thing to let the three seperate pieces all talk to each other – then you would need code in your theme to grab that database table and display numbers next to whatever…

    I think rtmedia’s plugin displays a number next to the media tab in my bp-social theme (for number of pics / videos someone has uploaded) – I wonder where this “# of likes” is to be displayed? Just a total number of likes in the main profile fields area – or number of likes broken down by media uploaded, blog posts liked, activity updates liked, etc.

    I like you thoughts on this @disha76 – I’d like to see this work – it sucks that BP does not have integrated media handling – it’s a major issue I have posted about in the past – brings us to this “4 separate things need to talk to each other” in order to get basic functions working / displayed.

    it would be awesome if the mediapress guy would offer to give that code to core BP – but then again, it appears there is not much work going into updating / maintaining BP these days – so getting things updated seems to depend more on third parties doing code for side projects money from what I can tell. Which of course means paying for custom stuff today – a future WP or BP update could cause the voting / like plugin to break and need to be recoded (by a dev that may not be responsive) and the media plugins could break.. and your theme may not display correctly – so you may have to try to pay all those people to make updates to keep those functions working in the future – if you can get those people to come back to projects.

    So – I hope it happens, but like many things buddypress – I would not hold my breath that something that can be modded to work today will not break in the future without a fix – I’ve had to let a previous buddypress like system go, and a few other plugins from around 1.5 that were nice.

    there has been some discussion of media handling in core I’m not sure the exact status of it but you may want to show up for a dev chat to lobby for your request(s) theres one later today in fact:

    Wednesdays at 20:00 UTC
    #buddypress on Slack

    https://wordpress.slack.com/messages/buddypress

    brought this up in the buddypress devchat today and will bring it up again when the 2.3 discussion starts :) it does seem like this idea has been brought up in the past and it seems like there is some agreement that an improvement in this department would be worth looking into at least.

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    Henry Wright
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    @henrywright

    @ubernaut

    I noticed you mentioned this, I think it’s a great area to look at going forward and it’s clear enhancements can be made. I’ll be interested to hear how you get on in future discussions

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    disha76
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    @disha76

    Okay I found this https://buddypress.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/5610
    This is really a critically ill-experience for the end-users BUT the milestones are being delayed from 2 to 2.1, then to 2.2 and then to 2.3

    Looks like BP has to be abandoned if this is not provided immediately in the form of a “hack” or plugin. I am unable to execute the patch provided there.

    well it sounds like applying the patch is not a matter of skill at this point. this is an open source project, one which is just about to release a major revision so to expect this feature to see the light of day “immediately” is not realistic. the best thing you can do if you don’t want to give up on buddypress is to hire a developer to add the functionality into your theme or via a plugin.

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    Henry Wright
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    @henrywright

    If you need something done immediately then feel free to check out the BP Jobs Forum where you can hire the skills of a developer. Alternatively, BuddyPress has lots of great stuff in the pipeline (coded by volunteer developers) so if you wait for it you’ll get all that for free.

    Hopefully this info helps you.

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    disha76
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    @disha76

    @ubernaut please do not take “immediately” in the literal sense of the term. Nothing is immediate in free+open source unless very enthusiastic code-wizard young non-commercial dev is there. What I meant is that delaying the mile-stone in such an user-facing necessity is unwelcome. Again I know there can be lots of argument as what is a “necessity”

    Paid development has its problem. I saw the paid work by buddyboss who has its own implementation of likes – but it is far from satisfactory. There are two problems in hiring a dev (apart from the fact this is for non-advertisement free hobby site):
    1) The dev cannot change the core of WP and BP unless it changes ‘itself’
    2) No guarantee that dev will be available in future also

    i am not a programmer but i would think coding a simple favorite button into the page template wouldn’t be too tall an ask or require editing core. i also think if it was using the buddypress favoriting it would just be a stop gap until the feature is included in core compatibility wouldn’t be an issue as you you could just remove the extra code but hey what do i know anyway?

    :P

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    disha76
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    @disha76

    feel free to check out the BP Jobs Forum

    The forums listed here are:

    Installing BuddyPress
    How-to & Troubleshooting
    Creating & Extending
    Requests & Feedback
    Third Party Plugins
    Localization
    Your BuddyPress
    Ideas
    Miscellaneous
    Plugin Forums

    I am not finding any Jobs Forum. The Devs that seem to be doing some good work in this respect are devs from Buddyboss – but they are making no replies to contact from submissions and they have no open forums.

    there used to be a forum for that maybe they took it down for some reason maybe a mod could chime in on that.

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    Henry Wright
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    @henrywright

    It’s still here

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    disha76
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    @disha76

    @ubernaut @henrywright http://jetpack.me/2013/06/10/moving-sharing-icons has some instructions. Do you know in which of the buddypress files we need to put these to show “Likes” button in the river?

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