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I’ve been searching high and low…Still confused about BP


  • Michael Gentry
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    @frankmontoyanm

    Helloooooo everybody(I’m glad you’re taking the time to help me, and hey, we all start somewhere),

    So I’ve been looking into BuddyPress for about a month now, and I still can’t decide if its what I need. I love it and I respect all its glory, So let me explain what I need.

    1) The overview of my site
    – I want users to come to my site, register, and log in. I would love to be able to customize the way these pages look!(background image, logo, and content inside them). With regard to my user experience, I need everything done from the front end because the backend is too confusing for members.

    2) What users can do on my site
    – Okay, this is what I’m having trouble figuring out. I’m not looking for a full-blown social media site (yet). I want to build a site that where users can log in, create a “blog” excerpt with media and then post it.An example would be “Me and my dog” with photos, and a paragraph explaining. They should also be able to put a location tag on it. When they post it, the only people I want to see that are the people they added as friends or if they have their profile set to public. And when it shows up on their friend’s news feed it should just show a featured image, title, and the beginning of their text with a like counter.When their friends click on that post it brings them to the full blog post, not just the featured image. Their friends can favorite the content or comment on it. On a users profile, I would like to show their recent posts, and posts they’ve favorited. and that’s it. No excess information like a changed profile picture, etc. An extended bio profile would work great as well.

    – I’m not looking for messaging, groups, sitewide activity, or showcasing my own personal blog to the members. I would like this site to be customized solely for the user. I wouldn’t mind having a site homepage. Would I need to enable multi-site to allow this to happen?

    3) I would like this to look simple, and clean; so that brings me up to my final hurdle. What theme should I use? I’ve been looking at X, Divi, and Soledad. Are any of these themes able to do what I’m looking for? I would love to just be able to customize how everything looks on my site.

    Thanks & happy holidays

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  • Michael Gentry
    Participant

    @frankmontoyanm

    Thanks in advance to anyone willing to help me!


    leog371
    Participant

    @leog371

    Everything your hoping for is well within the capabilities of Buddypress. It can be as simple or as complex as you make it. If your going to use a theme, remember that you would be locked into what that theme is setup to do for the most part.
    With that said, depending upon your ability with code and all, its all pretty easy to do yourself. Buddypress itself is really easy to get around and work with in the template files and the php is really quite easy for most things. If you have no html, css or php skills though, it could be kind of tuff.

    For what your asking for I would simply code out my own theme for it. Or simply hire someone to do it for you.


    Michael Gentry
    Participant

    @frankmontoyanm

    Thank you for the reassurance! I’m glad to hear all of that. Is there any tutorials or pages you recommend for the breakdown of BuddyPress and CSS / Template files? And I’ve been looking into coding my own theme, looks promising. Would X theme be a good choice for me so I can customize the way everything looks in their root files?


    leog371
    Participant

    @leog371

    Hmmm, Generally I say if you want to hack a theme, just make your own. Of course you could always make a quick little child theme for theme x and that would be perfectly fine, but hacking into the themes files wouldn’t be recommended. If they were to update the theme all your changes would probably be wiped out.

    As far as tutorials and theme development stuff goes for BuddyPress, simply google it. There are a lot of sites and pages on the subject. You do have to be aware that a lot of the tutorials out there are older and are using depreciated code snips and tags. You just have to study the codex and find relevant items, understand how to break files down and get a good handle on template parts and css. BuddyPress does have some hard coded functions that make certain filters, hooks and actions fire before or after certain template items. Not sure why they do that but it just means you might want to look into hooks, filters and actions, lol. Also be aware of the switch cases. They can be fun to play with. It can be over whelming at first but everyone I have ever taught to build themes picked it up quick and most on their own.


    Michael Gentry
    Participant

    @frankmontoyanm

    I’m glad you were the one to answer this question for me, it seems like you’ve been around the block once or twice. This is great information to freshen up on! And a lot of this stuff is overwhelming, but that’s alright (to an extent). It just takes practice.

    How long would it take to develop a theme like the one I described?

    And I hope you start off 2018 in a great way, thanks for all of the gold.


    leog371
    Participant

    @leog371

    Hey Frank, I guess the best question to ask you after all this is how comfortable are you with digging into or working with html, css and basic php?

    If a pre made theme is what your looking for, how comfortable are you with taking hours and days looking thru theme demos to find your golden pony or at least making child themes or customizing code?

    And then to answer you more specifically to your “How long would it take to develop a theme like the one I described?” , I guess that just depends really. Over the years I have accumulated many libraries of code and theme snippets and I know where everything is in WP/BP core and template files. So for me, A fully custom and dressed out theme might take anywhere from 3 days to 3 weeks if I know exactly what I am working towards at the beginning and have a clear, though out, planned out idea. If I hen peck it or free hand it” like I do from time to time” It may take a day or it might take 8 months, lol.

    As a bit of comfort to your quandary, everything you asked for in your opening inquiry is all ready done for you in BuddyPress “for the most part”. A theme like the one you describe sounds like a 3 day to 1 week job to me. Keep in mind however that with me saying that, things always have a way changing and evolving into monsters, lol.

    So lets break down your theme and see how it look on paper…. He He, my favorite part…

    1. I want users to come to my site, register, and log in…… (Its all ready there) just have to set it up to your liking. It can all be customized quite a bit as well.

    2. I would love to be able to customize the way these pages look!(background image, logo, and content inside them)……… (The logo, background and most of the design items are easy breezy as long as your ok with basic html and css and not looking for flying dragons and wizards shooting lightning bolts across the screen. Alas, even those can be done with css, flash and JS, lol. )

    3. I’m not looking for a full-blown social media site (yet)…….No need to have what you dont want to use. BP has a full host of controls to limit what can be done onsite by users or what is implemented frontend in its settings. WP Dash/settings/buddypress. Select what you want to use. You also have the ability to write functions, and use hooks and actions and filters to limit or build on anything you like.

    4. I want to build a site that where users can log in, create a “blog” excerpt with media …… There are several ways to do this in buddypress, just have to plan it out and test the methods and see what works for you. Mu, Activity and Groups/Forums.

    5. They should also be able to put a location tag on it. ….. it sounds like this is what x-profile fields are good for. Just create your custom location field and add it with a template tag in the loop you want to use it in. They fill out the filed on their profile page and it will display in that loop.

    6. When they post it, the only people I want to see that are the people they added as friends or if they have their profile set to public……BuddyPress frontend “user profile area” has a settings tab, under it are quite a few privacy features, not fully comprehensive in my opinion but there are a few plugins that add on to this and you can code it in as well. either way. Easy task.

    7. And when it shows up on their friend’s news feed it should just show a featured image, title, and the beginning of their text with a like counter….. Easy enough, just write the loop that way, lol. Easy to do.

    8. When their friends click on that post it brings them to the full blog post, not just the featured image. Their friends can favorite the content or comment on it. …..The natural behavior of WP and BP posts so we are good there.

    9. On a users profile, I would like to show their recent posts, and posts they’ve favorited…. Thats what the friends tab shows but you can add custom queries, and stuff and otherwise tear it apart and pick it of the pieces you want and use them in other places to make custom loops and queries and all kinds of goodness, lol. As long as you make sure things are firing in the right places and make sure certain things are in the loops where they belong, No worries.

    10. Site homepage is basically just a file called front-page.php. Copy the page.php from the theme root and then customize the heck out it. Work it up however you like.

    As far as the themes go, I never use premade themes. I do however make full use of the libraries of code I have accumulated, (_s) and bootstrap for a lot of my work. Cheesy I know but hey, it saves me time and money and gives me freedom. I rarely find the need to actually make a complete custom theme or write much in the way of custom code from scratch anymore. And I certainly never purchase any themes. So I am not the best person to ask about themes really. I know that there are tons of themes that do all kinds of stuff available around the web. Just have to give them the litmus test and see if they fit your project.

    Let me know if you have any other questions or what have you. I will be around.


    Michael Gentry
    Participant

    @frankmontoyanm

    I truly do thank-you for all of this! It’s pointing me in the right direction for what I want to accomplish. I feel like I just need a better understanding of the infrastructure of WordPress, and how BuddyPress works together with it. And you are right, there are endless amounts of options!I’m just stuck on how i would customize the X theme to how i would want it. I would rather do all of this in the beginning by myself, and hire a developer if need be down the road.

    – If the plugin conflicts with the theme how would one go about fixing that?
    – How would I begin to customize the CSS of the activity streams for users? Where would most of this customizing be taking place? In other words, how would I add the custom CSS to the site?

    These would be huge for me to know


    Michael Gentry
    Participant

    @frankmontoyanm

    (I am a college student and can not afford a developer at the moment), 🙂

    And I just want this website to be clean simple and to the point. How would I go about using a pre-existing theme (such as a blog, or photography theme), to have users showcase their photos, their “blog-style-posts”, and other media on their profile in a format where it looks like this https://demo.mekshq.com/?theme=pinhole&landing=3 ? I’m just confused on what needs to be done, would i have to enable multisite? Would users be able to follow each other and see their friends content in their activity stream? Does Multi site take a specific type of theme and would their still be a “home-page” of the site?

    – Very grateful for your help! This project will help me to start off 2018 in an exciting way. God bless!

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