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    update: couldn’t sleep at night :-) removed the whole caboodle and gave the domain to a friend. Dropped the WP dutch support on this (but we still support other wpmu / bp causes on our other dutch sites)

    conclusion: it’s perfectly legal but not ethical !




    no hard feelings. I also find the concept of GPL licenses tough to understand as I have seen some of my own work go the same route. However, I do believe one of the strong points of this type of licensing is that it actually helps get the word across.

    In our case we tend to provide dutch support for wpmu & bp. If wpmudev would be in dutch we wouldn’t even have offered it as obviously the guys at wmpu do a much better job than we do giving support, except …. they don’t speak dutch at wpmudev, and although it’s hard to believe, some of our fellow countrymen don’t speak english.

    We offer a service by translating, adapting, hosting and helping. This is costing us (lots of) time and money that we try to recover partly by charging a nominal fee, but guess what …..

    WPMU and buddypress now has yet another foothold and another outlet in a far away country with a foreign language. I guess the GPL license is all about getting the word out and that’s what we’re doing !

    p.s. Apart from the discussion above we are not oblivious to the ethical part of this story. If anyone can pose strong (well built) argument why we shouldn’t do what we do we have no problem seizing our services to reach out to a dutch audience. We are proud users of wpmu / bp and wouldn’t want to stand in the way of further development. Other than that … discussion closed and “zand erover”….



    Bowe (and others !) , I am sorry that you shout out blurps before actually reading up on things, but I understand completely as I also do not always read every text file in every archive.

    However, if you accuse someone of stealing you may want to do some homework first !

    The items we are “selling” are adopted by us to work for the dutch market where needed. Furthermore we do not charge for the themes and plugins themselves as is clearly stated on the site. There is nothing wrong with charging a fee for our services to maintain the site and provide support, per the licenses as included with the files. All these licenses are intact and included with our distributions. We do not imply anywhere that the files are ours and in fact there is reference to wpmudev right on our site.Furthermore we re-distribute under the same licenses and as such you have the same rights as we do.

    If we are in any form acting under false assumptions we will stand corrected and act accordingly, but for your pleasure we included an exerpt of the license as included with the files. If you still decide that we are “stealing” then keep your post as is, but if this reply has taught you something about GPL licenses we would appreciate you revoking your allegations.

    When we speak of free software, we are referring to freedom, not

    price. Our General Public Licenses are designed to make sure that you

    have the freedom to distribute copies of free software (and charge for

    this service if you wish), that you receive source code or can get it

    if you want it, that you can change the software or use pieces of it

    in new free programs; and that you know you can do these things.

    To protect your rights, we need to make restrictions that forbid

    anyone to deny you these rights or to ask you to surrender the rights.

    These restrictions translate to certain responsibilities for you if you

    distribute copies of the software, or if you modify it.

    For example, if you distribute copies of such a program, whether

    gratis or for a fee, you must give the recipients all the rights that

    you have. You must make sure that they, too, receive or can get the

    source code. And you must show them these terms so they know their


    …..You may charge a fee for the physical act of transferring a copy, and

    you may at your option offer warranty protection in exchange for a fee.


    to make it a bit easier still for you (as we know you are also dutch):

    De GNU General Public License of kortweg de GPL is een copyleftlicentie voor software, bedacht door Richard M. Stallman, die (in het kort) stelt dat je met de software mag doen wat je wil (inclusief aanpassen en verkopen), mits je dat recht ook doorgeeft aan anderen en de auteur(s) van de software vermeldt. Concreet komt dat er op neer dat als je software die onder de GPL is gepubliceerd wilt verkopen, je daar de broncode bij zult moeten doen. Deze broncode mag dan weer verder worden verspreid onder de GPL. Iedereen kan ervoor kiezen zijn of haar programma onder de voorwaarden van deze licentie te publiceren.



    depending on your budget you could try some adsense to launch. A simple $ 1.00 a day 30 day campaign may get you thousands of exposures and probably 90-140 hits a month. It may be $ 30.00 well spent to at least get your name out. You’d be surprised … (just be prepared for visitors).

    On a critical note it may yet be too early to launch campaigns. You’ll probably want some more content first. (chicken and the egg).



    I don’t get it ? Are you:

    a> trying to plug your own site and idea’s ?

    b> trying to complain about the fact that WP & BP are awesome projects that are in constant flux because they are so popular ?

    c> trying to share your frustration about lost time on one of YOUR idea’s ?

    I really don’t understand what you are trying to say here !



    Thanks Andy will do …

    b.t.w. the activation link on TESTBP.ORG goes to a blank page (in Chrome, firefox & IE)



    TEMPORARY WORKAROUND if you must change a user’s avatar (phew) :

    – find user-dir in wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/avatars

    – change ownership of dir (it could be owned by apache)

    – create a 50×50 image file ending in

    – create a 150×150 image file ending in

    – upload the files , done …

    we verified this procedure with 2 of our pre-BP users and updated their avatar this way. All post-BP install users have had no problems as far as we can see.

    need more help ? (it’s dutch but you can post in english on the forums), or wait a while until we revisit here.



    je kunt ons bestand eventueel ook krijgen (alhoewel dit met de regelmaat van de klok gewijzigd wordt als we foutjes of rare dingen tegen komen. (Ons bestand is voor een deel gebaseerd op Xevo’s werk).

    Mocht je het nodig hebben laat het even weten op (we kijken hier niet elke dag)



    We have avatar uploading problems only with some users. After checking directories I suspect the problem stems from active users PRIOR to buddypress integration.

    All users that signed up after we installed buddypress have no avatar problems.

    Users that were already registered in wpmu prior to our buddypress install can upload avatar files but they are incorrectly (not) processed.

    E.G. a prior user may have a blog ID=120 but when they try to upload an avatar then a directory is created in the wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/avatars folder with number 131 (so not matching a blog ID).

    Also the JPG files in that folder are not processed and retain their original name instead of the processed names like 7ba85e67359e35737060794b4690e67-bpthumb.jpg.

    Hope this helps with debug ..

    My question for now is: Is there a way to safely create a new avatar for the “broken” users through FTP while this bug is worked on ? e.g. can I create a folder with correct number and place image files in there ? (they would not have a processed name then) …

    p.s. These users were assigned a random wavatar correctly at time buddypress was installed. It’s only when they change from random wavatar to their own pic that problems arise.

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