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@shanebp is right. If you want to buy a theme, buy a good wordpress theme. You don’t need a buddypress theme since they should all work work with buddypress out of the box.
The point is that the creator of a premium theme stands behind their work and will answer support questions. These questions may be specific to the theme and how it works so they are the best person to ask.
If you have a generic question, you’re welcome to ask here.
I need an interface that organizes all the forum related tasks. I’m finding the setup with BuddyPress & bbpress to be a little intimidating.
It sounds like you just need a forum, which would be bbPress. The reason bbPress and BuddyPress are separate plugins is that this allows people to pick and choose according to their needs. What you need to figure out first is, what do you want and need?
To learn more about how to use bbPress, check out the official guides here: https://codex.bbpress.org/
There are also plugins specifically to add functionality to bbPress, such as spam control and other neat things:
Hope that helps.
One more thing, you’ll notice that the labsecrets video link is from early 2012 (about 2 years ago) and at that time BuddyPress did have the ability to create its own forums.
Hi Barry, it sounds like you’re not clear on what bbPress and BuddyPress are exactly. So let me try to clarify it for you.
bbPress is a plugin for wordpress which provides you with forum functionality. And because it comes from the same folks who created wordpress, it works great with wordpress and other WP plugins.
BuddyPress is a plugin for wordpress which provides you with a social network functionality. What does that mean? Well, imagine facebook, myspace, or any other social media platform – they have profiles, people can create and fill in their userpages, people can message other people privately, they have an activity page which shows their activity on the site, etc.
bbPress and BuddyPress are two totally different plugins but they work together and can be integrated with one another. But if you want to use just one of them, you can. You do not need to run both.
I’ve tracked down the video I think you refer to:
http://labsecrets.com/buddypress-and-bbpress-forums-made-easy/And I can clarify that for you as well. BuddyPress used to have its own way of creating forums, called “BuddyPress Group Forums”. But that functionality is deprecated because the developers decided to rely on bbPress rather than duplicate it within BuddyPress. So the latest version of BuddyPress doesn’t have group forums but instead relies on bbPress.
It all depends on what you are trying to do. What you are seeing in “the two forum apps merging to become one” is simply a deep integration between them so IF people want to use both, they can do so with ease and get the fullest functionality out of that combination use.
It sounds like you want a forum. If that is the case, forget about BuddyPress and just use bbPress.
Hope that helps!
@bphelp thanks for your gentle suggestion. I take it in the best way possible 🙂
Now let me respond by saying that what you’re saying is valid. It assumes however that everyone has not only the inclination but the time and opportunity to learn to code. Here’s the thing though, we can’t all be a jack-of-all-trades as they say.
I can’t learn to code, learn UI, learn marketing, learn sysadmin, learn etc………. you get the idea! Each of these is a field onto itself with a world of technical details and wonders to explore. Each is wonderful and interesting. However, to expect everyone to become proficient in all of them in order to accomplish a task in that field is simply not realistic.
And in case you will respond by elevating one above the other (“b bu but… coding is the shizznit!”), I would say that is not the right way to think about it as it denigrates the other fantastic work being done in the other areas and marginalising the value they add.
I am learning HTML and CSS through online courses because I want to have some basic proficiency. Learning php, apache, nginx, javascript, etc. is off the table however because that is not where my expertise and interest lies.
@laurentdesserrey no idea why it would break, works fine for me and many other people – I found it on a blog with many comments saying it works great!
Hentry’s code is a bit more complex and roundabout but it accomplishes the same thing. If you’re happy with it, great 🙂
Here’s another crazy idea: run a crowd-sourcing Buddypress development project on kickstarter or indiegogo.
Fredrick Townes mentions fragment cache or partial page caching here:
27 min mark
@boonebgorges thanks for that very illuminating and honest message 🙂
I totally agree with you and do understand that BP and bbPress are not comparable to WP in their development resources. That we only have a small handful of volunteer coders who advance the project and a similar group of non-coders who help out as and when they can.
It is exactly *because* the resources we have are very limited and precious that we need to organize and prioritize more formally. Because this is the only way to maximize what we can achieve out of those precious but valuable time and resources available.
Of course, this would be something that the buddypress contributors as a group would need to agree on in unity. I do not wish to nor am I suggesting to ‘impose’ this on anyone. This is merely a suggestion for a better way forward.
This may be the only way to bridge any potential gap between what ‘needs to be done’ and what ‘inspires or excites’ the contributors. We somehow need to connect those two things. Ignoring one or the other is not good for the project in the long term.
The idea of a community generated and ranked list was a way to bridge this. And to foment more cohesion between the wider community and the small group of BP contributors. That’s just one idea, no doubt there are many more and better ones at that.
I would love to hear thoughts on this.
🙂
@bp-help wait, you’re telling me you’ve resolved the CPT issue that has been worked on for years on trac?
thanks @ubernaut +1
@modemlooper yes, I understand that but you’re missing the whole point… why has there been no prograss in 2 years? And yes, I do realize that it could be done as a plugin but again, that is missing the point! As it is, imho this mentality of functionality being in plugins vs. core has gone way too far.I would like to offer two ideas for consideration:
1) Integrating basic anti-spam capabilities into core
2) Improving performance via fragment caching1) I realize that there are already good plugins that deal with spam, both comment and multisite blogspam. But being spam, it is a cat and mouse game and I feel that buddypress should have some basic anti-spam protection out of the box. For example, a hidden text field via css as a honeypot. Users who are not at all comfortable coding or editing files can turn this on or have it on by default (rather than try to follow guides like this: http://www.pixeljar.net/2012/09/19/eliminate-buddypress-spam-registrations/)
2) This was touched on in the recent buddypress panel discussion:
(caching: 19min – 22min)
After spam, the biggest issue that I’ve heard is with performance. I think we should start to address this. For more info and details see this thread.
One of the challenges of using caching plugins like WT3 is that they don’t work for signed in members of buddypress sites. But a fragment caching system can still cache parts of the page which are ‘static’ and would not change as a result of the user activity.
@modemlooper Thanks, I did know about hiring a coder to build a plugin. But you’ll note that’s not what I asked.
The article lays it on a bit too thick but it does have a point. For example, the ticket on custom post types has languished without any attention after a great initial discussion. And it has been punted several times already.
This is arguably an important feature. And it is 2+ years old. With the last activity being 6 months ago with trishasalas commenting and not receiving any feedback or response (except the punt).
https://buddypress.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/3460
I don’t want to get bogged down in this specific feature or ticket, I’m only using it to illustrate that, well, things can be improved on.
Do you really think that there is no room for improvement? That the status-quo is honky-dory a-okay? Because you don’t have to be negative or have a jaundiced eye to realize that things can always be improved. And it is obvious that the development process for both bbPress and BuddyPress can be improved when important tickets are ignored, marginalized and peripheral improvements come in way over their delivery date.
I would like to start a constructive dialogue on how we can improve things. If no one here is interested and thinks that there is no need or room for such improvement, then I’ll be happy to go back to lurking.
check this out: https://www.scalyr.com/cloud/
That is astonishingly expensive. You can find excellent non-shared hosting solutions for less than half that price. I suggest you head over to webhostingtalk forums and see the offers and also requesting quotes.
Your best option is to start with a host that you can grow with. Paying for rackspace when you don’t have the usage to justify $150/month is not logical.
found it! add this to functions.php
add_filter(‘wp_mail_from’, ‘new_mail_from’);
add_filter(‘wp_mail_from_name’, ‘new_mail_from_name’);function new_mail_from($old) {
return ‘ENTER NEW EMAIL HERE’;
}
function new_mail_from_name($old) {
return ‘ENTER NAME HERE’;
}I found a new plugin! fragment cache plugin from Rarst:
https://bitbucket.org/Rarst/fragment-cacheanyone more knowledgeable care to take a look at the code and take it for a spin?
upon further research I found these:
http://tollmanz.com/partial-page-templating-in-wordpress/
in comments, TJ Thomas writes on May 6, 2013 at 8:51 pm:I’m playing with BuddyPress and watching my load times disappear. (I’ve been using Redis in front of APC and have been getting 0.002 sec load times), but with the new dynamic of having a “social site” CPU and memory are getting a workout. I can really see that this MUST happen and I hope you are an impetus.
http://eamann.com/tech/ludicrous-speed-wordpress-caching-with-redis/
https://github.com/BenjaminAdams/wp-redis-cache
Wp Super Cache Page generated in 0.318 seconds.
W3 Total Cache Page generated in 0.30484 seconds.
Wp Redis Cache Page generated in 0.00902 seconds.
WHAT?!? 0.00902 seconds?!?
I can’t believe this. Is this for logged in users as well?
/mind blown
glad you resolved it and came back to tell us
.htaccess is a very useful file that is used for many things when running Apache (extremely useful for SEO!!)
there are tonnes of guides, tutorials, etc. on the web and you *should* have at least some knowledge of it (but ask your host first if you are running Apache, most are but better to be 100% sure)
https://codex.wordpress.org/Using_Permalinks#Where.27s_my_.htaccess_file.3F
if you don’t want to muck about with ftp, SSH etc. you can also use plugins like yoasts’s WordPress SEO plugin and edit the .htaccess (and robot.txt file) from inside your wordpress admin panel.
I’m assuming this is recent so what did you change? did you add a plugin recently? if so, remove it or deactivate it. also check your .htaccess
@mercime thanks but I feel very sheepish!
invite anyone has an option for this: https://i.imgur.com/g6h2j8s.png
“Allow email invitations to be accepted even when site registration is disabled”
if I may offer a suggestion:
please move the codex links from the sidebar and into the main page container. And then please use appropriate h tags to categories them in tree format (h4/h3/h2, etc.)
here’s a screenshot to show you what I mean: https://i.imgur.com/mFY6p4Y.png
why you ask? because the sidebar is and has always been for ancillary data, not for the most important data on the page! I’ve had friends as guinea pigs try to navigate the new codex to find things and the only stumbling block is that for some, they try to find things in the main page and ignore the sidebar because they have been so trained to predict it to contain less useful info (such as blogrolls, subscribe buttons, ads, etc.)
from a purely UI point of view, this is a simple but effective way to make the codex content more available and easier to navigate and read
getting a freelancer from the buddypress/wordpress job board or odesk to do this would cost little (my guess $50-65) as long as you know exactly what you want done
the general idea is a good one but perhaps you are making it too complicated. why not a thumbs up or down? like reddit or the old digg? that way it is binary.
if a user’s comment gets voted up, they get +1 points and if down voted, they get -1
if you are concerned that this would rank users based on activity instead of quality, then it is simple to divide by the number of comments
so someone who writes 1000 comments with each getting +1 has a mean of 1 ‘points’
but someone who writes 1 comment with 100 points has a mean of 100 points so their contribution is of a higher qualitymyCred is not only similar to cubepoints but I would argue much better, especially since cubepoints seems to be abandoned
