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“In my experience the notion of a perfect host is a canard….but WPE aside from any deal killing kind of quirks is the best platform you could be hosted on”
O_o
So there is no perfect host… and WPE is that host.
Got it.
And anyone who has a host that provides better servers, better tech support and cheaper rates is what? lying?
oookeeee
I suppose we’ll have to agree to disagree then
🙂
@ubernaut I completely agree with you in that you must research the host to find out all you can about them. Believe it or not, there are amazing hosts out there at very reasonable prices. I found this out personally because a friend pointed me to webhostingtalk where they all congregate (and compete). I don’t want to mention my host because it will sound like I’m advertising but they are a reseller of liquidweb and I am a fanatical fan because they are out of this world for technical support above and beyond what a normal host would provide as well as the quality of their servers and the price is incredibly reasonable.
So I think on the whole we agree, do your research. Don’t go in with a preset bias or prejudice and you’ll find that most people’s preconceptions (as shown here in this thread) are wrong. Again, I’m speaking from experience here.
@bowromir hi Ben, if you’ll note I wrote that my assumption was that you used an affiliate link because you truly believed in wpengine. I hoped that was the case and I’m glad to be proven correct.As for the rest, we’ll have to agree to disagree. I’ve helped friends set up their wordpress blogs on shared hosting and they are getting better performance than some others on vps! go figure. and for a huge saving to boot!
My two cents here are for people to not be scared about doing things the right way, instead of paying for overpriced and overhyped service. If you are absolutely not technical, know that you can combine a great host with a couple of plugins (installed and tweaked by a freelancer) and then set it and forget it for a couple of years for great performance. Again, this is simply a fact from experience. Of course, if you want to pay out the wazoo for the same or inferior service, be my guest!
googling around you’ll find a lot of glowing recommendations for wpengine, with the not surprising affiliate link. but you’ll also find experiences like this one:
@bphelp it depends on who the host is, find a good one and you’ll be just fine (webhostingtalk forum is the best place to start looking for a quality host that is affordable). you can find shared hosting that is *better* quality than some VPS out there, you have to do your homework! shared, reseller, VPS, etc. these are all labels and you have to scratch to get at the real stuff underneath as well as the host’s reputation and service history
@ubernaut I reject completely the notion that counting visits is acceptable. This is hosting we are talking about! just because a few hosts have started calling themselves by a new tag ‘wordpress’ does not mean they are doing anything different or special. It is still just plain old hosting. And as I said, you don’t need ‘staff’, you can get a freelancer to set up your site and plugins for $50 or so depending on the complexity. And once it is set, it is set. Instead of paying monthly, you pay once for that as it should be. And then you pay a reasonable fee for hosting monthly or annually.ps dreamhost? seriously?!? c’mon! do yourself a favor and drop by the forum I mentioned. You’ll thank me for it. There are smaller and medium size hosting co. you’ve never heard of but they are the BEST and they have the rep to prove it (as well as great prices).
I don’t mean to take the discussion on a tangent but am curious, what is buddypress.org’s policy regarding affiliate links? The article’s conclusion is an affiliate link which for now I’ll accept is because Ben truly does like WPE and that is why he’s recommending them, not the commissions. So I’d like this clarified by a moderator so we know where the board stands officially (@mercime ?)
Getting back into the discussion, WPengine is unnecessarily expensive. Buddypress users can get the same (and more) functionality with a few free and very low priced plugins at a fraction of the cost.
For example, using proper speed optimization methods (minify, cache, etc.) as well as free backup plugins and CDNs (1 TB of transfer for $40/year) – I won’t mention names here but you can easily find out the most popular CDN for wordpress and that is its price.
Even if you are a novice, setting up a few plugins is easy. If it isn’t, you can get someone to set it up for you at fiverrr or similar freelancer sites (freelancer, elancer, odesk, etc.) for very cheap.
The net result is a rock solid buddypress+wordpress install that runs blazingly fast and has daily backup. And the price? a very small fraction of WPengine’s price. I have this on a shared hosting plan with a great quality host found at webhostingtalk and my cost is $14/month at 200 GB bandwidth/month.
PS I just noticed that WPengine prices their plans according to ‘visits’ instead of the hosting industry standard of GB or TB of data transferred per month. This is disingenuous at best and downright sleazy at worst. Yet another reason to stay awaaaay!
yes there are a number of media plugins
but…
http://modemlooper.me/using-buddypress-in-your-plugin-or-theme-name/
neither am I but I imagine you can take an existing invite plugin and add some features to it to make it an invite beta sort of plugin, that is unless you want to start from scratch
@ubernaut ah, now I understand! yes, this is what I was also thinking… so… how can we do this? is there any plugin that has this feature? or one that can be built upon or…?
thanks @hnla
can you explain what “to deal with limited capacity in some terms generally speaking.” and “capacity limitations” have to do with my question of whether a beta invite plugin exists?
I’ve read the sentence fragments over and over again and I’m just as befuddled as before. maybe this is some sort of developer lingo I’m unfamiliar with?
again, I have no idea what you are talking about, can you please write in clear full sentences? if English is not your main language, try using google or bing translate
what?
ah, ok so it isn’t obligatory to use the karma points system built into achievements
re integration, I suppose they would have to integrate your plugin so that, for example, earning a badge that has, let’s say 10 points attached to it, will then be added to the aggregate count of points managed by cubepoints
thanks Paul!
I’m not a developer but am coming from the client side: let me warn you that any one who gives you BS like that is probably not going to pay you but string you along. This may sound negative but let me explain.
You wrote:
“My client is currently telling me that they will pay me once the social community is bringing in revenue.  they have money, but they just don’t want to pay me.”
What does ‘bringing in revenue’ mean exactly? gross or net? that is before expense or after expense? if after expense which expenses? does the expense include their salary? at what level of revenue? how will you verify it? will he open up his books and bank/paypal account to you? highly unlikely!!
No my friend. You are about to get royally screwed. That talk is BS and it is merely another delaying tactic.
Unfortunately there are a $ $ h @ t s in this world (on both sides, owners and developers) and they create problems for the rest of us by making us have to be very careful of who we work with and going through legal channels. Having said that, even if you have a contract do you realize that it isn’t really worth the e-paper it is written on? enforcing a contract is a totally different matter. Do you have the funds to hire a lawyer and go after this guy if he breaks his contract? so what good is a contract?
The best thing to do is to STOP working and tell him: pay me NOW. If you have access to code or the site, lock it down and don’t release it until you are paid.
Killing them Softly ending speech is relevant here (NSFW): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zK-b0INu1k
Hopefully you’ll come out of this wiser and if you play your cards right also compensated for your time.
About setting rates, go to elancer or other freelance websites, check with a ‘buddypress’ filter what the rates are for developers with your level of experience and knowledge. Then multiply it be a geographic modifier to find your rate (for example, if you are in the UK and they are in Indonesia, multiply your rate by 2.5).
@ronia I believe plugins provide those features
to give you an idea of what sort of things you can or should monitor:
@ekine I pointed this out about a week ago:
https://buddypress.org/support/topic/buddypress-org-link-error/
rather simple to fix, hopefully the person in charge of the website will see this and change the a href to buddypress from bbpress
“But if the project I am building requires social and the only solution is Buddypress and it does not support even basic SEO…”
You have it reversed. It is Yoast’s plugin that doesn’t support BP. It is the plugin developer’s responsibility to make their code compatible. The best idea is to contact Yoast (Joost). He’s a very hands on guy and would respond to an inquiry like this either via email or on the WP SEO support forum.
@zorro1965 a simple google search yielded this:
http://bp-tricks.com/coding/making-buddypress-compatible-with-the-wordpress-seo-plugin-from-yoast/
@naijaping thank you! I will take a look at this plugin
Just learned that this would be ’email remarketing’ or ‘behavioral targeting’ iow sending emails based on a user’s actions
related to this, when you do login it takes you to a screen that strangely says: “You are already logged in.”
??!?!?
wouldn’t it make more sense to send the user to the frontpage? or the support forums? or anywhere more useful than a blank page with the befuddling message that they are ‘already’ logged in?
tux, can you pls post it again? I can’t find your previous account nor link mentioned, am very interested to see these resources, thanks!
@Florence, you seem to have it up and running thanks to @modemlooper ‘s help. Just in case, have you seen this plugin? it is probably the most popular one and it was made to work with BP (Boone wrote it):
https://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/invite-anyone/
great video! one thing that I’m not clear on is caching. why can’t buddypress use a caching plugin like say, W3’s Total Cache?
can someone please break this down for me?
thanks
lol how ironic that a spammer shows up on a spam thread 1 year old
can the mods please remove the above french spammer and ban the user panlong
