[@hnla Participant 13 years, 3 months ago]

No the whole point of the bundled styles is not to lend any particular visual styles over and above basic layout stuff otherwise it would have never been possible to implement BP theme compatibility, these styles have to slot into any theme, themes we have no way of predicting in terms of their own visual style. it is up to you to add whatever additional styles you need for BP to sit with your theme.

Or find a theme that has been pre-built to use BP.

[@hnla Participant 13 years, 3 months ago]

The codex is your friend, please check for guides there first.
This page ought to explain your templating options, you should be able to work out how to manage a modified layout from this:
https://codex.buddypress.org/developer/theme-development/template-hierarchy/

[@hnla Participant 13 years, 3 months ago]

?

You can use a file named buddypress.php this will be used ahead of page.php if found, you can edit that as much as you’d like.

In BP 1.8 we have extended this to be far more flexible to use component names or actions, etc.

You perhaps needed to read this page or perhaps you did and just haven’t upgraded?
https://codex.buddypress.org/developer/theme-development/template-hierarchy/

[@hnla Participant 13 years, 3 months ago]

Please read the codex documentation, there are guides there on the theme compatibility and template hierarchy – first port of call should always be the docs.

[@hnla Participant 13 years, 3 months ago]

This is buddypress support, question is probably better served on bbPress support really.

[@hnla Participant 13 years, 3 months ago]

Edit:

Sigh it’s been fixed in trunk already, so it will be included in next point release of BP.

[@hnla Participant 13 years, 3 months ago]

Confirmed!

Minor bug or typo in the implementation of the hierarchy with directory incorrectly pointing to /single/
If your comfortable editing files you could edit core file bp-members-screens.php and change the highlighted line at approx 333:

	public function directory_template_hierarchy( $templates ) {
		// Setup our templates based on priority
		$new_templates = apply_filters( 'bp_template_hierarchy_members_directory', array(
			'members/single/index-directory.php'
		) );

You’re looking at the path ‘members/index-directory.php’ and need to remove the ‘single/’ from that path.

Only do this having made a backup copy of the file to revert to and it’s a short term fix that will be overwritten when correction comitted to core – I’ll raise a ticket for it.

[@hnla Participant 13 years, 3 months ago]

I think your first priority ought to be establishing and verifying a good backup strategy don’t you? try Vaultpress.

and he is done now with developing the website and now I found some problems

Then he isn’t done is he? I never understand statements like this, you have what sound like fairly severe issues, if I handed off a development I would expect to be asked back to fix issues like you are reporting.

As for actually helping you it’s going to be very difficult as we have little real detail from you, so as John says you’ll need to try some basic debugging to and isolate the issue a bit.

[@hnla Participant 13 years, 3 months ago]

That is not the way to modify any aspect of BP or any app especially in a live situation as mentioned and discovered.

You can set default constant values for avatar ‘full’ & ‘thumb’ or if needing them smaller than the shipped default size you can use CSS to reduce an image size within reason and as long as it’s not a massive reduction(CSS is not a means to reducing file sizes they still load/download at full size)

[@hnla Participant 13 years, 3 months ago]

As mercime says two posts up, it’s best to ask your theme developer about this as it’s they that have coded a proprietary template system and as such will know what parts need to be in a standard ‘page’ file for their theme to work, we can tell you that essentially your ‘buddypress.php’ file needs to have a ‘if posts while posts loop’ & the_title() & the_content() functions inside it as might be seen in twentytwelve page.php/content-page.php but what your actual theme needs in addition the theme author knows best likely though this would be all the parts you see in news-page.php before and after any content generation sections.

[@hnla Participant 13 years, 3 months ago]

You need, then, to wait for a fix from the lead developers and/or raise a ticket on one or other of the projects trac system. Copying or mixing files from two different release versions of an app is always going to be something to absolutely avoid really, however there was more detailed fix demonstrated, which involves hacking core files which might be safer short term interim solution and which would be overwritten when a core fix/update is released.

[@hnla Participant 13 years, 3 months ago]

already knew where to create the file
cos it doesn’t really matter where you create a file it’s simply a plain ansi text file with a particular name, where it’s uploaded is what matters. Ideally you have a test install of your site on your localhost machine so you would create the file in /plugins/ so you upload from /plugins/ to /plugins/

[@hnla Participant 13 years, 3 months ago]

What did seem to make a difference was downloading the Members Plugin and changing the roles for Administrator. A bunch of them were not checked, including the role of a Participant. I checked everything and was able to post again. I then updated to the latest version of bbPress.
Glad you figured out a workaround, however one shouldn’t need to use a thirdparty plugin to fix another, there’s an issue that needs addressing, I have this where I have groups enabled for forums but haven’t had a forum selected to use, trying to do so results in a perms issue and using the bbpress forum tools to remap users to default perms has any effect which it ought to or suggests ought to.

However, if I navigate to the dashboard and edit the group from the CPT where you have the same options as front end the process does work, so when issues might arise worth trying from that way around.

[@hnla Participant 13 years, 3 months ago]

post comments do get added to activity stream already, page comments appear not to however, check it further and if you feel that’s incorrect raise a trac ticket on the pages question.

[@hnla Participant 13 years, 3 months ago]

This sounds like the dreaded single line comment ‘you don’t have sufficient permissions to …” Sadly I cannot say in this case what may have occurred to trigger this, sometimes clearing the browser php session and/or cookies will resolve this. It’s a WP issue which needs greater clarification than I’ve found thus far in why this nonce check cuts in from time to time seemingly without provocation.

[@hnla Participant 13 years, 3 months ago]

How can we do that? You need to actually provide details of what theme you’re using and what if any specific issues you are encountering, we’re not mind readers 🙂

With theme compatibility you shouldn’t ned do anything but activate BP and ensure the necessary pages exist, it will then work with your chosen theme.

[@hnla Participant 13 years, 3 months ago]

(Make you smile?)
More or less.

If I were given a really nice house for free I would suffer it’s little flaws, I would attempt to learn how to construct window frames by studying books etc, however what I wouldn’t be doing is ‘looking a gift horse in the mouth’ to quote a metaphor – not suggesting that this what you are doing here though, but the point being that nothing is perfect, and BP has it’s issues and is in ongoing development; it’s not a finished product but one stable enough, developed enough that it serves sites well enough to be used, it can, and works best, when extended, modified, adjusted to suit the particular sites purpose.

If it’s an inherent problem, then we should have a button in the settings area where we can turn off that problem.
There is! and you found it:

The only thing that I have found is in BuddyPress>Settings where it says:
Blog & Forum Comments Allow activity stream commenting on blog and forum posts

I unchecked the box and the Reply option still shows on the Activity Streams page and on the Group Home pages.
That shouldn’t be the case and isn’t on my test installations so not sure what’s happening with yours, first thing to try is activating the default theme or twentytwelve to see if still the same to test whether this is a theme issue.

As for general site users feeling unsure or confused in how to use I ought to point out this isn’t unusual nor is it particular to buddypress installs, one overlooks the fact often that the vast majority of users on the internet really struggle to understand anything in real depth, with many apps causing them confusion. With buddpress or any app really there is the need for guidance and explanation, but this is the responsibility of the site owner to provide, guide pages on a site imho are essential, something that sets out the sites purpose, explains the various features and how users ought to use them.

Buddypress as stated earlier is in ongoing development, but as an Open Source project requires feedback from users, bugs reported, issues or enhancements raise on the ticket system ‘trac’

As for BP ever providing everything to all people out of the box this is never likely to happen, providing options is the biggest nightmare as it’s endless and eventually grinds things to a halt. Due to the nature of WP being open in terms of it’s plugin API a lot of what one may want is going to be left to plugin developers to provide.

So BP improves with each iteration but if you believe there are issues or enhancements to be made then please get involved feedback to the project (and not in the support forum where it will just get lost) add your thoughts, examples, possible solutions to the BP trac ticketing system, it’s open to anyone to use.

[@hnla Participant 13 years, 3 months ago]

I just had to edit the files in the bg_legacy folder
But as copied files in your theme rather than the originals I hope!

[@hnla Participant 13 years, 3 months ago]

plenty, only one is relevant;

Please disable all plugins not relevant – ‘not relevant’ means all but BP, it’s the first step in troubleshooting.

[@hnla Participant 13 years, 3 months ago]

This is an issue that has arisen it seems with the bp groups extension re-write, it’s been mentioned on bbpress support but the solution or workarounds suggested best not followed, in due course @jjj will doubtless look into it and put a fix in place.

[@hnla Participant 13 years, 3 months ago]

The pages are created when you first install/activate BP if you haven’t got one for activate then create an empty page with that name and in the BP settings screen under ‘Pages’ ensure you tell BP to use that page.

[@hnla Participant 13 years, 3 months ago]

buddypress and bbpress
Two completely different apps/plugins, bbpress is a forum plugin that integrates with BP groups if desired. Activity streams are designed to try and record and display as much site activity as possible. Commenting on items in the activity stream such as forum entries has always had issues and the advice and best practise generally has been to disable commenting on such items in the activity stream in order to avoid this confusion.

I don’t write code and I think that this needs to be set up with backend controls so that people like me can use it. Otherwise, you should have a notice saying that BuddyPress and BBPress are only useful to programmers.

Uttered out of frustration!. Sorry but BP does a lot out of the box but works best when taken and modified to suit the individual site. You always have the option of learning some level of coding ability, stating you don’t want to learn code somewhat limits your ability to use and manage these apps really, it’s not simply a case that they MUST be written for absolute non coders, these are open source apps that represent thousands of hours of work that people get to use for gratis, expecting more than that a little unfair? Also both these two plugins really do do a remarkable job of working out of the box with both teams having put a lot of effort in on that side of things (too much imho)

[@hnla Participant 13 years, 3 months ago]

Edit// Just realised you have attempted most of what I covered here, as mercime asked have you contacted the theme authors? They will probably need to provide the solution as their templating system is fairly proprietary.

Yes we know they do and that is because the WP themes naturally follow the WP template API and BP theme compatibility is and can only be based on that, I’m afraid that example ‘page’ template you show diverges so far from that WP normal ‘page’ that BP won’t be able to work with it.

However you may be able to create your own custom BP ‘page’ template by following the bp codex guide for theme compatibility and creating a file named ‘buddypress.php’ locating that in a new folder ‘/buddypress/’ or ‘/community’/ in that file copy the content of the themes page template you have shown us but replace the section that represents the content with a standard page loop, thus you keep the themes approach to fetching the layout but replace the content rendering section.

If that doesn’t work then you really need to take this to the theme authors and explain the issue and ask if they can provide a workaround.

[@hnla Participant 13 years, 3 months ago]

Please do not start new threads on same question when you have one running already.
Closing this thread, continue in:
https://buddypress.org/support/topic/question-about-after-installing-buddypress/

[@hnla Participant 13 years, 3 months ago]

Not really clear what their solution was, presume they were referring to copying over the groups core directory from 1.7.3, this does not sound like a hugely sensible fix mixing files from two versions but probably won’t cause issues.