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Derek – While I am equally frustrated at the absence of an events plugin, I am personally of the opinion that even without and events plugin, I could never switch back to those other platforms that are just so frustrating and can’t stack up to BP. (read Joomla, Ning, Drupal, elgg, etc.)
What I am most excited about is that this new environment will give Andy some seriously valuable feedback about human behavior in a BP world. TestBP is not about getting the most out of a community..it’s just a test bed. BP.org, however, needs to function like a well oiled BP-machine and, while I do like the direction it’s taking (esp the Group Plugin metaphor) I think Andy will be surprised that not all behaviors will be as he expected and the site & BP will have to evolve as a result. It’s all good.
I am shocked, however, that Andy left on the Activity stream Reply function for forum posts which which, by design, bifurcate the support conversations due to those users who live more in the Activity stream than Groups
Two points: When I clicked on an update via the “View” link by @boone -> https://buddypress.org/community/activity/p/267 I was redirected to -> https://buddypress.org/community/activity.
2. I went to this forum to post this reply and had to go all the way to the last page just to find the reply field. It dawned on me that it’s like that in my own theme as well. I plan on adding “reply” links/buttons along the way to jump to that form as it’s certainly not intuitive to do so if you’d like to reply and not read the entire thread (I realize that may be a bad thing in and of itself to some)
This is a nice option and, perhaps could use even more refinement as it is not as black and white as Greg suggests on @Brajesh‘s site. Yes, the way @Andy makes use of groups as plugin vehicles here on bp.org does create the problem @greg illustrates but there are other use cases where you’d want to keep it on. I think adding the ability to have the group admin turn this on/off on a group by group basis would allow the group type to dictate.
@greg I disagree that groups and discussions are necessarily separate. That was one of the much needed evolutions of forums…the ability to have a contextually aggregated place for stuff ie a group that also had a discussion component to ti, among other features. In a sense, the discussion belongs to the group, not some generic mess of topics. Not to diminish your point, but there can be great utility in “if you want to participate in this discussion, you must be a part of this group” I know in some implementations, it might dissuade new members but in others it was just what was needed
@hotforwords that’s a know bug. See @foxly’s comment 2 before your 1st one for clarification. fixed on next release
@Foxly Your clarity in explanation is to be commended as is your grasp of the intricacies of BP. Glad to be of some, if somewhat small, assistance. I have a feeling we’re close to a big breakout release here.
+1
I have experienced similar behavior
@aaron you weren’t “censored” that I can tell, just called out. I do have to give you credit, wpmu seems to have more Google SEO juice than even bp.org. witness:
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Ning+migration+buddypress&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
Oh, and @Aaron Edwards – we’re looking forward to the day you guys join the bp.org community to help, answer questions and provide insight instead of just shilling product
Please tell me the WPMU “change ‘happy’ to ‘glad’ and charge $79” crew did NOT take Boone’s plugin and re-brand it
Rich – I have had this on the back burner for some time. Glad you took the time to get it going. Tested and works as promised. I noticed an interesting by product of the process. By virtue of the way you had to go about this hack (via date_recorded) we are left with a constantly updating time recorded on the original thread (as opposed to just the reply. I wonder if it would be possible to go about it a different way:
Getting the original post’s time stamp to stay at the original value and show the most recent time stamp on the latest reply, all the while having it bump. It’d be even cooler to have the reply only up top with an “in reply to” ref to the entire thread but that might introduce unnecessary splits of the stream (eg Do you put the reply in both locations?)
@foxly I agree. Say what you will about FB and YT but with that kind of user base and traffic, you get a fair amount of UI experience. Can they improve? Sure, but the first thing we need to admit is that we are all just trying to create little customized, niche versions of FB for our own user bases and the folks we are trying to lure away form those sites already have a behavior set in place.
I’m with ya, brother.
testing v 0.1.9.2 Excellent progress so far. I have not been able to break this build (yea!) but I have a bunch of usability comments to add and, hopefully, help with.
1. I’d consider giving admins the ability to decide what users are presented with when they upload media e.g. whether they have to deal with visibility options at such a granularity. My site is behind a wall so “public” will only throw them off. This is minor, I know.
2. I know you use the FB metaphor about creating an album first but I’d make the media add process a logical next step. Right now you create the album and the process just kinda stalls.
3. The member tags field will cause my folks to do nothing. I’d suggest making it more FB like. You click a button that says “tag this photo” and a list pops up of your friends to tag with. Now, I know there isn’t yet the ability to tag faces, but it needs to be clear that you can tag your friends in pics (maybe something along the lines of the auto suggest in the private message area?
Will send more feedback as I go thru. Many Thanks so far.
Do we really know who the Others are?
bp-events is open for us to do what-ever we want with it. Now…who has time?
I agree. Nothing wrong with a walled garden but if you want to showcase it then the least you can do is throw us a few screen shots, no? (also LOVE the disclaimer <my paraphrase> “we don’t endorse any of these charities, we’re just here to raise money for them”
you can always go in and do a translation to shorten things (eg minutes == min) etc
@xezo that is correct. I thought he was talking about access to all profile fields for edit/delete, for which you do have access via the extra Admin bar menus created by BP for admins. Those are the ones I use all the time (fixing avatar crop screw ups, as an example)
So, from that perspective, the only use for Skeleton Key would be for additional stuff introduced by less that robust plugins, no?
@Gene53 BuddyPress does have an edit user function. I use it as admin all the time on my site to do just what you said (usually tidying up display names from older non-savvy new members). Skeleton Key, as cool as it is, is unnecessary
Yea, I didn’t want to sound like a dick by making that statement but, at first glance, it just appears to be a case of “Hey, I’ll list my plugin here, too” which isn’t cool. Esp in light of some of the killer (and not easy) work being done right now.
Gian,
Do you have a diff slug set for registration?
I am a massive Cure fan btw. Love the name of your site. I’ll never forget seeing them, pave fainted like Robert Smith, in Leipzig (What was then) East Germany right after the wall came down in 1989.
Mike
ps On your site, after activation, there is no login form present. Also, you aren’t clearing your username/pw placeholder text so I have to select all and clear myself when entering the login info
I wanna know why BP fails to work properly when I don’t follow the detailed instructions laid out on this site and thoroughly discussed in the forums? I mean, the hallmark of good software development is the creation of code that works when you don’t follow the instructions. Duh.
well that actually may be better. Not sure. The key is to decide wether you should a. not be able to reply at all from the stream b. be able to reply but only as a comment to a forum post (nested) as you described or c. actually reply with a new top level forum post form within the stream.
Don’t forget there’s also the entire issue of auto joining the forum on reply from the stream and how you go about warning the user that he is joining
Rich,
I have the same issue with @dennis_h re Activity stream. First, let me make sure I understand what your intention is: I assume it means you can reply to a forum post from the Activity stream and it will put that reply IN the forum topic as if you did it from the forum itself. (currently they are not synced so you bifurcate the discussion if you leave that turned on)
If that is what it does, should I go back and turn that option back on?
@foxly/@francescolaffi I will review and add to the excellent user story submissions to date. Just uploaded the .1.7 patch. A few observations that i’m not sure have been mentioned:
1. I just added a desc to my 1st picture and noticed punctuation is being escaped (can provide a look on my dev site if you like)
2. Commenting on pictures works but adds no entry to the Activity stream.
This is testing against a bp-default theme (altho also present on my own theme)
Drive on, Soldier!
