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Enough already with those damned bumps pleeeeese 
Thank you for the info, as Boone advises above now please. fwiw in the other thread where I went over these issues I covered a little of what Boone mentions above, when hit this issue examining the pertinent DB tables showed that the forum_id hadn’t been created creating a fresh group and enabling a forum for it demonstrated that the process did work so that took me back to the advise earlier in re-saving the groups details to kick that forum_id into life.