[Burt Adsit]

I see part of the problem now. No avatars for your groups after upload of group avatar. It’s beginning to make sense. I wasn’t using custom avatars for groups. Til now. Never tried it.

It’s gonna take me a few to look at the problem but I was able to reproduce it on this end. I’ll take a look. I’m helping another user get forums up and running right now.

[mfgmk]

Running into the same problem with r796 (detailed everything here: https://buddypress.org/forums/topic.php?id=388). Tested on IE7, FF2 and FF3 with a cleared cache — my “Send To” label still has (Use username – autocomplete coming soon) next to it, so that’d be my first guess that auto-complete isn’t quite up to snuff yet on my BP installation. Also just wanted to point out again that messaging does work if This is a notice to all users. is checked off — hopefully, that might give a clue as to why it’s not working. Otherwise, I’d have to second everything gogoplata noted (minus the forums stuff); I’m on MT’s DV, too.

[Mike Pratt]

@burtadsit Great thread you pointed us to. I came away with the feeling that we can all achieve this objective without a ton of coding but I feel like we should flush out the concept 1st. Conceptually, I am trying to achieve what @feconroses is ….a community with a main central blog that they can post more in-depth pieces than you might find on a forum and then a bunch of groups centered on topics. In a perfect world, I could either give each group a “blog” to post things on or somehow associate tagged main blog posts to a particular group (thru categories maybe?) Bottom line is this: our community is looking for engagement. Not the ability to run their own blog inside a community. BP is clearly well suited but just needs a few tweaks to get there.

Oh, working on the bowling league plugin

[gnattybumpo]

problem solved. see https://buddypress.org/forums/topic.php?id=428&replies=3#post-1845

[gogoplata]

Nah, I’m on a DV as well. I’ll probably just contact support and see if I can make any progress that way, though I need to try to pinpoint where it’s going wrong as all I know right now is the forums don’t work and that’s about it.

[Burt Adsit]

@gogoplata We may have the same host but are you on the Grid Server? Isn’t that shared? Talk to mt and explain the exact problem.

OK. About the debugging. Gotta go pull up those files again and figure out what I did. I pulled the debug stuff out of some of them. Lemme go find that stuff and I’ll brb.

OK. In bp forums code it winds up calling:

discover_pingback_server_uri($url, $deprecated = 2048) which is in /wp-includes/comment.php

In that function it calls:

wp_remote_get( $url, array( ‘timeout’ => 10, ‘httpversion’ => ‘1.1’ ) );

Which is a new mu 2.7 thing and it lives in: /wp-includes/http.php

That call finally resolves down to something low level in the WP_Http class which is the function:

function request( $url, $args = array() )

at line 261 is the selected transport mechanism obj making another low level call.

This is the end of that request() function where I have some debug code.

$response = array( ‘headers’ => array(), ‘body’ => ”, ‘response’ => array(‘code’, ‘message’) );

foreach( (array) $transports as $transport ) {

$response = $transport->request($url, $r);

if( !is_wp_error($response) )

//global $burt; if($burt) {echo ‘TRANS:’; var_dump($response); die();}

return $response;

}

return $response;

}

This call is evidently used alot so I have that global there because I only want to trigger var_dump() when I’m going out looking for a pingback url which is what going in to the groups area does with the forums component turned on.

(pausing for breath…)

Up in comment.php I have a toggle for the $burt var. (I love that var). Line number 1249/1250 is this:

//global $burt; $burt=true;

$response = wp_remote_get( $url, array( ‘timeout’ => 10, ‘httpversion’ => ‘1.1’ ) );

Insert your fav var name there and in http.php and it only triggers when discover ping back whatever the hell it is, is called.

Remember you asked.

[Burt Adsit]

@stix1972 again. I have no idea how shared hosting works. I don’t know that you *can* modify the /etc/hosts file at all. Maybe they won’t let you. I dunno. I get to play with whatever I want on my server because I got the whole thing to myself. Well, virtually to myself.

Anybody else running on a shared host and got forums up?

[Burt Adsit]

@stix1972 No it has nothing to do with apache config in any way. The communications between bbpress and buddypress are xmlrpc. That’s why Andy has us flipping switches in bbpress for xmlrpc and pingbacks. Apache is not involved.

The php curl library is what’s being used to find a link between bbpress and buddypress. This may not affect everyone. Matter of fact the xmlrpc stuff in wp and bbpress has 5 different ways of establishing a connection. It tries the curl method first. If curl is enabled on your site then it uses it.

My problem wasn’t with the curl library. It was working fine doing what it was supposed to do. My problem was that my server, which I’m supposed to know how to config because I’m the sysadmin for it, was not configured to enable php to go out and do low level stuff based on the settings in the /etc/hosts file.

Does that make any sense?

Group forums wasn’t working and I knew I had it configured correctly. Then I went looking for a different reason. I knew the code was ok because it worked for other people just fine. I debugged down to find out the exact error that was causing a problem then tracked it down to the curl lib not being able to resolve the correct ip address.

It was something in my environment other than bp and bbpress. The hosts file was it.

If forums aren’t working for you then this might be the problem. Then again it might not. This setup between bp and bbpress depends on so many factors being right, it’s a miracle it works at all. I’m guessing that’s one reason xmlrpc has 5 different ways of talking. Never know what environment it’s gonna run in.

[gogoplata]

Tried this but still no luck. Back to the drawing board.

Burtadsit, what method were you using to determine that it was 404’ing? I’m curious to test and see if I was/am receiving a 404 because that should help me pinpoint where the problem is.

[stix1972]

Yes I use A Small Orange. So I will contact them.

[stix1972]

Thanks, so it is on the Apache server. So we need to have the hosting site chage the host file. I can see if I can get in the backend bt I think that if it is on apache they will have to do it

OK I think that will help out. Yes the forums are not working It always say error in posting.

[gogoplata]

burtadsit – Did you successfully integrate cookies as well or just users?

[gogoplata]

stix1972 – Media Temple uses Plesk so you are likely not affected by this, though it may be a similar problem at your host, which I presume isn’t Media Temple as they don’t use cPanel as far as I know.

[Burt Adsit]

You only do it if group forums are not working for you and you are running on a dv. I don’t know how hosts other than Media Temple (mine) handle things. I can’t imagine it would be different though. They setup apache and all the operating system standard things for us and walk away. It’s a cookie cutter thing for them. They find what works for most of their customers.

Most of their customers at mt probably aren’t running trunk mu, bbpress and bp. Anyway, you have to edit your /etc/hosts file from root. I don’t know anything about cpanel. I have plesk which is similar. The tech support guy had me playing in plesk and all I accomplished thru there was turning off my subdomains.

I played in root with vi. If you can find a way to do this thru the dv backend, I’m sure loads of people would appreciate knowing about it.

Perhaps one of the people who freelance and visit here frequently could enlighten us?

(hint)

[Burt Adsit]

It’s crudely possible by just setting ‘only user accounts can be created’ in site > options. Then everyone is a ‘subscriber’. mu doesn’t have a variable setting for default user roles. subscribers can only comment on posts. Gonna hafta manually change them to something else.

See: https://mu.wordpress.org/forums/topic.php?id=2292

for a discussion on this topic.

I wanna do something similar. I want to create a blog for each group at group creation time (optionally). All group members to have author/contributor roles.

Groups are the most important component in bp for me. Groups should have a wire, forum, and blog. And a bowling league. Bowling leagues are important too.

[stix1972]

So do you do this in the cpanel or do you do this in a WP file

[gogoplata]

So you’ve got the group forums working? Congrats and thanks for the how to! Going to try this out as soon as time permits.

[Burt Adsit]

Howdy people. I solved *my* group forums problem. I’m running on a dedicated virtual server account for mu/bp/bbpress. I found the solution to my problem with group forums. It might have something to do with yours.

See:

https://buddypress.org/forums/topic.php?id=426#post-1813

[Burt Adsit]

buddypress doesn’t create the blogs. wordpress mu does. Install mu with that option and you’ll get the subidirectory version of mu. I’d check the mu forums and around here before I chose that option though.

[zenseeker]

Thanks. I’ll try that bebopcool.

[bustherh]

People on the other forums seem to think this is a buddyPress issue. Later today I will remove all plugins to see if this is a WP-MU issue.

[Burt Adsit]

I got good news for ya meerblickzimmer. Ya it does work. I remember playing with it a couple of months ago. Just tried it again on my mu site. The config stuff is buried in the ‘secret’ options page. It’s not advertised, it’s just sorta there.

yourdomain.org/wp-admin/options.php

Here’s an mu thread.

https://mu.wordpress.org/forums/topic.php?id=1857

Happy posting.

[Meerblickzimmer]

@burtadsit: blog_by_email works just in WordPress, not in WordPress MU or i found no possibility to include this function via WPMU-Plugin. But that is not the right forum for WPMU – Plugin discussions..

[tabish]

I filled correct username.

And composed a Messege, when hit the button Send. It told me:

“Message could not be sent, please try again.”

So when should I try again?

Same error as when I post in Forum.. it says can not post this Topic. Looks like BuddyPress is not in a good mood

Regards

[Burt Adsit]

Thanks Andy. I’ll look at it when I get done with a smoke break.

I worked up that modification to mu core http.php and installed it on my DV server. Now it returns a valid pingback url.

However, yep there’s a however, group forums is still not working. I’ve even gone so far as to insert a ‘forum_id’ manually into the group meta data table for a specific group. It’s not reading from bbpress. Gonna look at it when I get back.

Progress not perfection ‘eh?