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Some feedback on BP 12.0.0-beta2 though please treat with caution!

Local Install – Local, php 8.2.10 – MySQL 8.0.16 – WP 6.3.1 – BP Version 12.0.0-beta2

a lot of plugins!!

Buddyx theme NouveaU template only or Thaim theme i use Legacy template.

Not a coder or developer.

Just a general interest in BuddyPress
Not in any way dependent. a hobby!

1) Bottom line – With BP Classic all appears good.

2) When BP Classic is not active plugins like buddydrive, buddypress-group-calendar, buddypress-group-email-subscription and bp-idea-stream no longer appear in Group Navigation.

However Q&A from Anspress still appears in Group Nav & works when BP Classic is not active

https://imgur.com/P6gKRWq no-bp classic not active

https://imgur.com/b8yu3fi yes-bp classic active

3) The plugins (with exception of BuddyPress Group Calendar) do appear in the Group Nav —> Manage. (see https://imgur.com/DCYvcOT)

4) Also another (non-buddypress plugin) that interests me a reasonably popular (codecanyon) directory plugin ‘Sabai’ – well, essentially all its data vanishes when bp-attachments is active in BP 12.0.0-beta2 without BP Classic. The message is “it seems we can’t find what you’re looking for. Perhaps searching can help.”

5) If bp-attachments is not active (say replaced with mediapress or with mediatheque) in BP 12.0.0-beta2 the Sabai data is unaffected but the non updated plugins (mentioned in 2 above) are ineffective

6) In wp-admin/admin.php?page=bp-settings options–attachments the last two choices (see pic https://imgur.com/00yZYna) if clicked to include the choice is NOT saved. Also buddydrive appears in p-admin/admin.php?page=bp-settings options

However everything INCLUDING bp-attachments appears to work safely & pristine with BP Classic active

bp-attachments not used with legacy template

Many Thanks for all the work on BuddyPress.

Hi @imath,
Further to my post on this thread (https://buddypress.org/support/topic/lets-prepare-the-buddypress-12-0-0-next-major-release/#post-331256) regarding the Reply button, I have tested and done all the troubleshooting I can, and there is nothing that brings the Reply link/button on comments back. From everything I have done I have eliminated all plugins, custom functions and css as being the cause, so this is a fairly major problem for me, that does not occur on the non-beta Buddypress. Unfortunately if I try to even preview another theme I get a critical error, so I can’t eliminate Blocksy as the cause; however on my live site the Reply link is there whether it is the Legacy or Nouveau theme, so something appears to be conflicting between Blocksy and the beta version of BP, given that your test with Twenty Twenty Two did not have this issue. Can you or someone talk to Blocksy and try to work out the various issues that exist between that theme and BP please? I have done what I can and really need some assistance now.

Secondly, I found that it wasn’t possible to add a main menu link for the currently logged-in user that remains visible at all times. Although I created a custom link, it only appeared in the menu when viewing specific sections (such as Profile, Activity, etc).

Thirdly, I encountered difficulties in adding a sidebar to any of the Buddypress pages, despite my default Blocksy setting for each page to have one. Upon investigation, I discovered that in the Customizer, Buddypress pages were being counted as Blog Posts. Intuitively, I would have expected this setting to be configured in the Buddypress-specific sections. As it stands, without extensive CSS modifications, this means Blog Pages and Buddypress pages will always have to share the same layout.

I’m curious if you’re considering incorporating enhancements or additional features in the Customizer at some point. In my experience, I’ve needed to make a significant number of CSS adjustments to align Buddypress with my desired color scheme and preferences in previous versions. It would be immensely helpful if at least some of this could be achieved through Customizer settings or a dedicated settings page within the plugin. Historically, Buddypress hasn’t adhered to my theme defaults, but I’m uncertain if this is specific to the theme I use or if it’s a widespread experience.

@mike80222, Thanks, I will probably do that once I have adapted anything I need to for the new BP. Changing from the default theme to Nouveau is probably presenting more challenges than BP 12 is though, but it is difficult to know what might be causing issues as I test it though – my main theme, my own php functions, Nouveau or new BP!! Or another plugin of course.

@awol, regarding your bbPress tangent — my experience is that neither the BP forum (this one) nor the bbP support forum work the way BP and bbP do “out of the box.” Perhaps it has something to do with the theme, or perhaps they’re customized. But if you want to see how they’re going to work together your you, I’d suggest setting up a test site and installing them with your theme. Also robin-w on the bbpress forum has a plug-in that allows for a lot of customization and is pretty good about answering these kind of questions.

Hi @imath,
Thanks for that, and sorry to be a pain (although hopefully I am bringing up things that do need addressing and are not unique to my setup), but I have discovered something else that is not working as I expect, as follows:
If someone comments on an Activity post, on my existing (not test) setup, that comment has the options below it to either Reply, Edit or Delete; but the reply and edit options are missing in my test setup for non-admin users, and the reply one is missing for admin. I am still using the default theme on my existing site, whereas I am using Nouveau on the test site, so is this a Nouveau issue? I downgraded to the current non beta BP on my test site but no difference. I am going to also investigate if a plugin is causing it, but as I have the same plugins on both sites it seems unlikely. I deactivated one plugin that seemed the most likely culprit (Buddypress Edit Activity from Buddyboss – https://en-gb.wordpress.org/plugins/buddypress-edit-activity/) but it was still the same (except of course this plugin is what adds the edit button in the first place, but the reply one is still missing).

On a bit of a tangent, can I assume that this forum is running on bbpress? It’s just that I am thinking about adding a forum but am not finding this one very user friendly – for example the reply button is not visible until you hover over the post you want to reply to, and then it doesn’t automatically add the “@name” at the beginning, plus everything is written in a code box rather than normal input, just for starters. Font size could do with being larger too. Or is it just me?

Hi @imath,
Again, not sure if just an issue with my theme, but noticed something else with the menu; when a user goes to a page the menu highlights the parent page and/or the sub page that they are on, and this is working correctly for Activity, Members and Groups (I have Activity as the menu parent and the others as children), but for the Profile page, which I have as a parent menu item with other profile sub pages as children (Activity, Notifications, Friends, Groups, Settings), it always highlights the Activity and Members menu items and not Profile, while on the sub pages it does highlight Profile and itself, but also Activity and Members.I guessed that this is because Profile and its sub pages are not regarded as Directories but as sub pages of Members, so because I have Members as a sub page of Activity in the menu, both of those are highlighted; I confirmed that this is what is happening by moving Members to become a parent menu item, and now Profile highlights Members, as do all the sub pages of Profile (as well as their parent), and Activity is not highlighted. Hopefully this is an easy fix!

Hi again @vapvarun,
Sorry to say that BuddyX is a disappointment – it is nowhere near as flexible as Blocksy, for instance you can’t adjust sidebar width, you can’t have the sidebar at the top on smaller screens, you can’t move the menu, the header is also less useful and many more things that I have discovered in just a few hours. Also still the same issue with buttons not consistently styled, and no options to style forms, tabs etc. I honestly think it would be just as much work trying to get the consistent styling that I want as it is now with Blocksy, but with less flexibility in getting the design I want. The problem derives from Buddypress though rsather than either theme in terms of the styling because BP uses so many different classes for things that could be grouped. My only ultimate solution is to eventually grasp the nettle and completely rewrite all the relevant templates, but I simply don’t have time now, and with all the changes in the pipeline it might prove wasted effort as well.

Hi @vapvarun,
Thanks for the suggestion, I will look at it; however I am not using the Buddypress ‘member system’ directly, as I have a seperate membership plugin to allow me to have paid memberships using Stripe – do you know if this would be possible with BuddyX and BP? I also need to have a theme that is very customisable, and Blocksy fits that very nicely, plus I know it well and it has great support, so I am a little reluctant to change themes. I also have a lot of plugins and quite a lot of custom functions, and again I would be worried that another theme might have conflicts with those. It would inevitably be a big job changing themes even if it clears all the other hurdles, but I will investigate.

@marufimran434 It would be advisable to get in touch with your theme’s support team to clarify any doubts.

Hi @awol You can test the BuddyX theme, which works well with Nouveau https://wordpress.org/themes/buddyx/ and can save you from having to do lots of custom CSS work on default themes.

Hi again @imath,
This is a separate query from before, and is really a question about what the new BP will change, if anything, with regard to the methods of adding activities. The reason I ask is that I have been trying to do the following on the latest version of the ‘old’ BP; at present I have certain posts being created automatically when users click/tap or hold certain buttons, via a form plugin; some of these are custom post types, but some are regular posts. I have had no problem with the custom post types in terms of adding them to either the main Activity stream, or individual Group Activity streams (both or just one), but cannot get regular posts to go anywhere other than the main Activity stream (and the Profile Activity of the user), and what I want is to be able to post them to either both main and group, or to just group (Profile Activity is not an issue). If there are no changes coming that impact this, I will need to create another custom post type to deal with this, but obviously I would rather avoid that if I can as it would entail quite a lot of extra coding/changes to existing code, so if there are any further details on existing or planned changes in this area it would be great if there is some link to them, or if you have any information you can share. I haven’t yet got all the relevant code for my existing site set up on my test site for beta BP, which I will do if you can confirm that there are changes in the beta that will allow me to achieve my aims.

Also, what are the plans for the Legacy theme? Should I plan to move to Nouveau? Or will a new BP theme become available that will work alongside my WP child theme? I am using Nouveau in my test site but I am struggling to achieve certain things that I can do with Legacy on my existing setup. But I am not particularly happy with either of them because of the amount of css edits I need to make, particularly with relation to things like buttons, inputs, tabs etc.

I appreciate all the work that has been and is being put in, so please don’t take my comments and questions as criticism, I’m just trying to avoid unnecessary work!