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BP ver 1.7 does away with group forums

Funny that, I’ve just set up group forums on a 1.7 beta test site, think maybe what you meant to say is that BP as of 1.7 does not bundle the older bbpress that was packaged along with BP core. From 1.7 on you need to install the standalone bbPress plugin if you want forums period, but having done so bbPress will allow you to create group forums if you wish and also to import existing group forums if on an older install being upgraded.

WordPress is the #1 CMS in the world because of the low technical point of entry. It’s intuitive, easy to use, easy to install, well documented, and quite easy to hack. It’s usage has eclipsed both Joomla and Drupal because they are not. I think many people think BuddyPress will be as easy to install and use as WordPress itself, and it’s just not (yet).

#1 cms is an opinion and regardless WP is a blogging platform trying to move processes into a more CMS like app but it’s not there yet.

No it’s utterly intuitive (in fact that’s not really a great description)  when you get deep into certain aspects, yes it’s quite well documented but is still lacking detail in some areas, and just cos there’s a page on something doesn’t mean it’s all good info. Joomla has never been worth passing comment on, comparisons between Drupal and WP erroneous they are two different platforms, Drupal is a CMS built to be as such and Druapl is not and never was designed for non coders it’s a developers platform.

Despite all that and reservations about various parts of the WP API it’s still essentially a nice platform to develop on and it’s primary feature/role as a blog blows all competition out of the water.

Buddypress will likely be a whole lot easier to use for non coders with 1.7 now but still they will imagine the earth and want to have it but realise it’s not that simple and BP does require coding skills if you want to progress beyond simple out of the box installs into whatever theme you’re running.

As for documentation get in there and help write some please – it’s an aspect few want to get involved with, not enough glory I suppose?

@Chouf1 for someone who is upset I’m complaining – all you really did is complain that I was complaining. I didn’t give any details, because mine were the same as the OP’s. In addition, I was talking about a base install – and the groups/forums issue is the same no matter what the theme.

I have since found a few tidbits of information that were helpful.

1. BP ver 1.7 does away with group forums
2. BP ver 1.7 is in beta 2 and almost ready for release
3. moving forward forums should be integrated using bbpress (which you have to install separately)
4. you only get the “create” a group button from the master root /user-groups BP URL
5. profile BP links like /members/username/groups are different than the master root pages
6. to manage a group after creation before BP 1.7 you have to actually visit the groups page in question (/user-groups/groupname) and the click “admin” to make changes – there is no master groups editing page
7. in BP 1.7 there is actually a new “groups” section in the wp-admin sidebar where you can (for the first time) have group management capabilities on the backend (edit / delete)

I stick by the fact that there is very little documentation on how to use BuddyPress after first install. I have been using WordPress since 2004 and have created and hacked hundreds of plugins and themes. I have written thousands of blog posts and articles / tutorials on WordPress. From that background, having installed BuddyPress I can quite easily say that it’s not intuitive to use, it’s difficult to figure out the integration points, and many things that should be easy are just plain hard.

WordPress is the #1 CMS in the world because of the low technical point of entry. It’s intuitive, easy to use, easy to install, well documented, and quite easy to hack. It’s usage has eclipsed both Joomla and Drupal because they are not. I think many people think BuddyPress will be as easy to install and use as WordPress itself, and it’s just not (yet).

I’m definitely figuring out where everything is, and how to get going after first install. I didn’t find much here in these forums or the Codex in that overall regard. Even external blog tutorials are a little sparse on the subject – most information you find is just severely dated.

Am I willing to contribute to the documentation? Certainly. I’m in the process of writing up my findings now – but I was looking for answers first…and all I was finding were others with similar unanswered questions.

there is an js error on one of the image. I gues one of the static pictures at the right of the slider. FF doesn’t see it, but IE 9 does.

Both browser says there is an error, but i’m unaible to locate it. Image corrupt or truncated: http://<unknow&gt;.com

Check also the slider settings for any auto-resize value and deactivate it. Such errors are also mainly due to image that are not correctly built by a software (photoshop, etc)

Deactivate all your plugins and use only WP, BP, your slider and bp-default and see if it works.
Reset also your permalinks (just by saving again the settings).

Also, be aware that WP polls 2.3 is only given to be used up to WP 3.3

And if you use BP 1.7b2, use bbPress 2.3b2 it’s much better.

i  don’t understand why there haven’t been any additional comments on this.
Probably because they have nothing to say about such a multi debate subject on this forum.

Much like @pdillon809 I installed fresh install of BuddyPress
Much like ? He gave some details. Not you !
Which version do you use ?
What is your theme ?
Which plugins do you use ?

We don’t read in chicken guts here nore in cristal bowls !

and found absolutely no links to create either a group or forum (form the admin bar profile links).

To create a group you have to activate the group component in the BP settings. Maybe also allow your members to create groups.
Then you go on the group directory page and you’ll find logically a create button on that page. Have you your kitchen light button in your bedroom ? No ! Same for BP: each thing at his place. And a place for each thing.

I finally a create group button if you go to /groups
Very impressive ! But code is poetry isn’t it ?  You did a unecessary work i guess: this button is a 100% part of buddypress.

but still nothing for creating a forum topic (even as admin).
Have you installed bbPress ? Depending your BP version, have you allowed the group forum in the bbpress settings ?
Do you use the integrated group forum shipped with BP (1.xx.x) ?
Do you now understand why it’s important to give some details ?

I’ve used bbPress countless times, but can’t find any documentation for how it integrates with BP Groups, and there is no “Forums” on the backend even.

Did you take a look at the upper part of this support forum dedicated to BuddyPress ?
1) it’s written BuddyPress
2) it’s written Codex
3) it’s written Blog (sometimes reading a blog helps to understand what’s going on)

FYI, the codex contains also some precious informations about how to setup a group forum, a standalone forum or both group AND single forum. Did you read the codex page mentionned above by @mercime ?

Doing some searching I found dozens and dozens of people trying to create forums and groups – most have no answers.
Wow ! You have pretty much time to loose !!!
Depends where they ask, what they ask and what they understand when be answered. I can find you hundreds of users who created groups and forums without any difficulty ! What else ?

This post was better at stating the actual issue – links in BP menus vs. the user-based links in the profile menu.
Especially since you came into the discussion with a very constructive attitude ?!!!

But still no answers and severe lack of documentation.
Do you mean you have some time to contribute to the codex documentation ? That would be very much appreciated. You said you have several bbPress install behind you. Beautiful coincidence, some user claiming here about the lack of documentation ! Feel free to write, it’s a wiki ! Use the same credentials as here to access. If you are over inspired, you can also publish on the bbPress codex or ask for help on their support forum.

http://wprealm.com/blog/its-time-to-stop-kicking-the-buddypress-puppy

I don’t understand why there haven’t been any additional comments on this. Much like @pdillon809 I installed fresh install of BuddyPress and found absolutely no links to create either a group or forum (form the admin bar profile links). I finally a create group button if you go to /groups – but still nothing for creating a forum topic (even as admin). I’ve used bbPress countless times, but can’t find any documentation for how it integrates with BP Groups, and there is no “Forums” on the backend even.

Doing some searching I found dozens and dozens of people trying to create forums and groups – most have no answers. This post was better at stating the actual issue – links in BP menus vs. the user-based links in the profile menu.

But still no answers and severe lack of documentation.

Can anybody shed any light on this?

hi @notpoppy,

no it’s not possible. WP post comments are not forum discussions.
And the BP included bbPress forum as no settings for such.

If you use BP 1.6.x with the bbPress 2.2.4 plugin for a standalone forum, you can plug bbPress, but this cannot be done if you have group forums.

If you use BP 1.7 and bbP 2.3, every thing becames possible, but you have to wait a little, both are still in beta…

That said, each WP comes with Askimet, the theoretical nec plus ultra of comments anti-spam, whitch protect the comments, the activity stream, etc
Search on this forum, you’ll find many discussions about spam and what to do/use….
Even if no definetly solution exist.

Since your site was compromised, and you are the resident expert with your configuration, we rely on you to fill in any gaps that you can.

If you get to the point where you’ve identified a clear and repeatable security issue with WordPress, BuddyPress, bbPress, or any other plugin, let is know by checking out the following page:

https://codex.wordpress.org/FAQ_Security

Thanks, and good luck.

@ludachrisgsx Looks like you’d want to import vbulletin forums to bbPress forums https://codex.bbpress.org/import-forums/vbulletin/ For more information/assistance, please post at https://bbpress.org/forums/

BuddyPress and bbPress are both WordPress plugins.

1. scalable – yes. One can only be limited by server and skillset. https://wordpress.org/showcase/flavor/buddypress/ are just some who have thousand of users.

2. not buggy – nothing’s perfect in this world. Having said that, both BuddyPress and bbPress have the same Project Lead and both projects are actively maintained and upgraded. Compatibility of both plugins with current WordPress version is assured.

3. easily modified – easy is relative. The code is open source. Experienced BP/bbP/WP developers can certainly add/remove features as needed.

4. ton of features – register at http://testbp.org/ the official BuddyPress test site running default features on trunk versions of WP/BP/bbP using Twenty Twelve theme.

5. easy to build out different content types etc – see #3 above.

6. not bloated – one can enable or disable features as needed.

7. easily optimized for search engines – WP/BP are naturally optimized for search engines even without “seo” plugins.

8. solid support community – all of us who give support in these forums are volunteers living in different time zones. There is no on-demand support. One could hire full-time/experienced developers by posting at:
– https://buddypress.org/support/forum/plugin-forums/bp-jobs-board/ and
– http://jobs.wordpress.net/

9. secure, obviously – we take security seriously.

>> I know that asking this here will come with a BP slant,

Unlike phpfox and vbulletin, we’re not trying to sell BuddyPress. It’s free. It’s there for anybody to use. And it’s an outstanding plugin if I may say so myself, constantly improving and keeping up to date with latest developments. We have active communities submitting enhancement requests, bug reports and patches for the bugs where found. There are developers who submit add-ons themes/plugins which are either free in WordPress.org or commercial ones specifically for BuddyPress.

Good luck with your selection process.

EDIT – I took my time answering, didn’t see your post @modemlooper

@virtualsouq Hello. Go to dashboard menu Forums > Add New after adding the title of the forum, make sure you select Category type in Forum Attributes box on the right

– https://codex.bbpress.org/getting-started-with-bbpress/ re type

You can’t just install and not take action to limit server requests. You need to cache as much as possible and use a CDN. Also check logs you can have bots hitting site and you can block those.

Find out what is hitting ajax file and block it.

@unsalkorkmaz per your request, changed links and info in your original post. Congratulations on passing the WP theme review process 🙂

How to download:
http://theme.firmasite.com
The theme has been approved by the WP Theme Review Team and will soon be available for download at the WordPress Theme Repository.

@sudeepacharya Yes. https://codex.buddypress.org/user/setting-up-a-new-installation/installing-group-and-sitewide-forums/

Simple answer get of MT grid service not sure really why it was recommended by ML of course they won’t shut you down much better to keep you running and slap you with a a huge bill – for the money you may end up paying in overage you could get a semi-dedicated or VPS server and simply be monitored on bandwidth transfer.

As for Ajax it is being used far too much, people don’t seem to get why it oughtn’t to be or when it’s even suitable to be used – people love gimmicks and that’s all Ajax is – even if I do like using it myself.

Oh and $20.00pcm is cheap hosting! Verging on ‘Super cheap hosting’

If you site is worth something to you get it moved immediately to a proper server either VPS or dedicated. Expect to pay ~$50 -60 but for that get a far more responsive server with it’s CPU and system memory dedicated to your site alone.

At a pinch move it on to the MT VPS range, then you’ll know pretty much what your monthly costs will be.

Unfortunately as that says nothing about the types of requests going to the Ajax file, it’s not very helpful.

Is your site using an object cache?

Congratulation!

bbPress version please ?

i typically like those.