[@mercime]

@hiresphereadmin please contact theme devs or check out their forums if someone has resolved same issue.

[aces]

What language?

I have just helped someone with Turkish at the end of the following topic: https://buddypress.org/community/groups/localization/forum/topic/turkish-language-pack-issue/

[johnnymestizo]

As this is not being looked at I have re created the topic under the BP Group Hierarchy plugin forum.

https://buddypress.org/community/groups/bp-group-hierarchy/forum/topic/function-to-return-current-group-slug-even-if-in-group-sub-levels/

Johnny

[bluuey]

just want to add one thing. when i look into the forum tab on buddypress setting. the “install sitewide forum” still exists. Should it be “uninstall sitewide forum” or something?

[John James Jacoby]

Around and around… You specifically said this site sucks to use as a support forum. I asked what you think we can do improve it. You tell me I’m misunderstanding but then confirm my understanding.

I’m calm as a cucumber, but something productive doesn’t happen here, I’ll be calmly closing this topic.

[bluuey]

yeah i did. “The forums component has not been set up yet.” what does it mean?

[r-a-y]

Did you try deleting the “Forums” page that the group forums installation created in the WP dashboard under “Pages”?

[bluuey]

i dont have the group forums at the moment, the forum page will show up if i dont associate it with the installation forum. but its gone when i associate it. this is really confusing.

[r-a-y]

Okay, try uninstalling group forums and delete the page associated with it. (This is usually the /forums/ page).

Next, re-run the sitewide forums install. What happens?

[bluuey]

i have read that tutorial, i even used it as a guide. i just want to install the sitewide forums.

[r-a-y]

It’s important to know what you want to accomplish.

Do you want to install both group forums and sitewide forums or just one of the choices?

Try reading this tutorial:
https://codex.buddypress.org/getting-started/installing-group-and-sitewide-forums/

If you have any questions after reading it, please post them.

[aces]

I use the walled garden technique – outlined here.

https://buddypress.org/community/groups/how-to-and-troubleshooting/forum/topic/making-site-blog-members-only-with-one-about-page-for-non-members/ has links to buddypress code snippets which may be closer to what you already had….

[aces]

https://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/private-buddypress/faq/ might suggest where the problem lies, if it’s that plugin and it’s compatible….

There are snippets of code circulating on this forum which can lock down buddypress in a similar way.

[hiresphereadmin]

Oh, sorry, I forgot to answer your question……I got the list from 2 different places…..the link you provided and a Buddypress forum about custom.php….I just copied what they had (more or less).

[KittyBeth]

Hi, Thanks for answering.

-Buddypress 1.5 with BBpress 2.0.2
-I currently have the permalinks set to /%postname%/
-By setting the links, do you mean under Settings>Forums and Buddypress>Pages? I have done that, but it’s possible I did something wrong.
-When I tell the default theme to activate it changes the theme of the whole website. I already have the rest of the website how I want it with the Stimulus theme.
-yes, I’ve tried deactivating plugins.

[hiresphereadmin]

Yes sir……I sure did…….this is what my custom.php looks like:

define( ‘BP_FORUMS_SLUG’, ‘discuss’ );
define( ‘BP_FRIENDS_SLUG’, ‘professional contacts’ );
define( ‘BP_ACTIVITY_SLUG’, ‘activity’ );
define( ‘BP_PROFILE_SLUG’, ‘profile’ );
define( ‘BP_MESSAGES_SLUG’, ‘messages’ );
define( ‘BP_GROUPS_SLUG’, ‘groups’ );
define( ‘BP_ALBUMS_SLUG’, ‘albums’ );
define( ‘BP_SETTINGS_SLUG’, ‘settings’ );
define( ‘BP_LOG_OUT_SLUG’, ‘log_out’ );

Of course with the open/closing tags……..what did I do wrong?

[modemlooper]

`”Your post above contradicts your earlier post, and I’m confused at what exactly you think we could do differently to improve your experience.”`

In my first post I responded to @Foxly so no wonder you are taking it the wrong as it won’t make sense to you. I was saying to another third party dev that USING this site for personal support forum is not the best, not that this site sucks.

You’re right, this is the support site for BP not third party plugins. I thought using the group forums here would be a good way to keep things organized and do a little general support for BuddyPress while I was here but I need something to better manage things.

Keep calm and carry on.

[Lesley Austin]

The directory is there at mysite.com/members….but there is no longer a tab or link to it from the profiles. I have had to take a long break from working on my site, but I do remember that it was there, and as I get close to launching my site, my members will naturally want to be able to click to the directory to see the other members.

Where should the link be? I see that there isn’t one here, either, when I visit a profile….is this a new setting for BP?

….oh, just noticed (came back to edit this) that you can see a members tab in the forum postings. I hope this isn’t the only place BP puts it, as I don’t have forums?

[John James Jacoby]

At the end of the day, this is a support site for BuddyPress. Us opening up groups for third-party plugin support was an experiment of its own, and a successful one I think. We put your plugin and support information in one convenient Group as opposed to mixing all of them together with tags like WordPress.org does.

That said, there is nothing anyone can ever do here that will give it more emphasis than BuddyPress itself. I actually think its great if you outgrow your space here, as it means you’re doing well and being successful, fostering an essential part of the BuddyPress ecosystem.

I like the idea of eventually having a popular plugin page. If that happens, clearly BP Media stands out. I think the best way to keep things running smoothly currently is to focus on BuddyPress core development and support, and iterate on the third-party plugin experience for what it is.

[@mercime]

You need to enable the forum for your Group first. https://codex.buddypress.org/getting-started/installing-group-and-sitewide-forums/4/#enable-group-forum

[foxly]

@johnjamesjacoby

`There’s a line where feedback becomes toxic, and you’re both walking it.`

Everything I posted was fact. I stated a problem, suggested a course of action, and explained the possible consequences if the problem was not corrected. Where was I being toxic?

The original forums page effectively worked as a “preferred forums” list. It ordered forums by last posted message and number of users. Because the BP-Media forum is (was) extremely active and has a huge number of users, it was always at the top of the list.

Recent changes to the BP site hid that page from the UI. Users can still, in theory, access plugin forums from the plugins list, but the list is ordered by last SVN commit date. That’s useless for someone trying to browse to a specific forum. They’d have to navigate 30 screens deep to find BP-Media.

Although *you* may think the core buddypress forums are more important than plugin forums, users on buddypress.org do not agree with you. And they’ve voted with their posts. That’s why, until you hard-coded the “core” forums into your template and hid the “plugin” forums, *over half* of the core forums were displaced from the list by very popular plugins like BP-Media and CubePoints integration.

Although these changes might improve *your* user experience by making it easy to navigate to the forums *you* visit most frequently, they harm the user experience for a large number of visitors to the site. You need to step outside your bubble and look at the bigger picture.

Buddypress.org was “yours to experiment on” until you let 100,000 users move-in and build a community. Now you have a kingdom. And if you fail to keep it running smoothly, you’ll have a rebellion.

^F^

[John James Jacoby]

In one sentence I’m being sensitive, in the next you’re never posting here again. Hm.

The issues you bring up now aren’t with the site, they are with trying to commingle your support with BuddyPress.org support. Your post above contradicts your earlier post, and I’m confused at what exactly you think we could do differently to improve your experience.

Don’t think I’m immune to the basis of the challenges you’re talking about. Between the .org sites, Twitter, Facebook, Skype, IRC, and email, everyone wants help from every angle up to and including my personal Facebook account. It’s up to you to set appropriate limits and filter support where you want it most.

If the BuddyPress Group Forum didn’t work for you, that doesn’t mean the whole site sucks. Even if it does, what do you suggest we do to make it better? What iterations do you recommend we make to make it the best site we can? It’s our site, we’re free to experiment.

[modemlooper]

JJJ you’re being too sensitize to the word “sucks”. I mean it sucks for ME.

Yeah I was an admin in my plugin groups but 50% of support was posted in the general forums with now way for me to move or merge or close/resolve. This caused me to answer the same silly questions over and over because a user would go to that plugins forum and not find answer and instead of posting it would get posted in the third party general forums.

My reaction is to Foxly stating that these forums are not so good for a serious support forum. Trolling through a bunch of garbage to get to serious issues is a waste of time that could be spent on development.

Not a problem anymore, I’ve moved support and I’m using bbpress. Guess I’ll quit posting here then.

[John James Jacoby]

I don’t understand. There was never a list of preferred plugin forums before, and I don’t see a compelling reason for there to be now. No third party plugin deserves front and center on a site that’s dedicated to supporting itself.

If your forum has more traffic, it isn’t because it’s on the first page of anything; it’s because you’re using it for its intended purpose and have paid employees to staff it. Even if I’m wrong and those aren’t valid enough reasons, core BuddyPress components don’t even have their own dedicated forums; why would BP-Media take any precedence over BuddyPress’s own core?

@modemlooper – If you weren’t an admin in your own group, you could have asked any one of us whom you talk to daily to fix that for you.

@foxly – Are you talking about https://buddypress.org/community/groups/ ? If so, the page is still there but hidden from te UI for now. Your plugin still shows up in /extend/plugins/ just like everyone else’s does; what more do you expect to happen?

Overall, the general responses from you both are to not let any good deed go unpunished. Anything that changes and you’re there to criticize why it ‘SUCKS’ or some other thing is exponentially better. There’s a line where feedback becomes toxic, and you’re both walking it.

[Harty]

Hi,
when members contribute to a group/forum in BP. I want my install to work just like this site does – I.e. I can write here and then edit if I want to change it.